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- From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith)
- Subject: Re: Bilingual posts and Quebec sovereignty
- Organization: University of Western Ont, London
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:42:13 GMT
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- In article <TODD.92Nov17094022@juno.elcom.nitech.ac.jp>, todd@juno.elcom.nitech.ac.jp (Todd Law) writes:
- >
- > I agree with the "not looking down on each other" part, but
- > forget the "equals" part. (*REALITY*FLASH*) How can the majority
- > ever be equal to the minority? Elementary mathematics says it ain't so.
- > This is especially true when that majority is buoyed by mostly
- > English-speaking America, making the French-speaking population
- > less than 2% of Canada and the USA together. Reality says that
- > French-speakers are a minority in Canada. Why should one minority
- > receive a greater status than another? Some will say because the
- > French were in Canada early on - but to that I say let's make Cree
- > Indian the second language. What about Alberta, where French is
- > the seventh (from my Marketing Management textbook) most common
- > language? If the reasoning was based on justice, I could accept
- > it. But fact is that the reasoning is based on the considerable
- > political clout of Quebec, all ideals aside (if ideals mattered
- > francophones would stand in solidarity with other minorities,
- > especially the anglophones living as a minority among them in
- > Quebec).
- > {C'est l'arrogance de toutes faces qui est en train de nous tues.}
- >
- > Todd Law
- >
- All right, I have had just about enough from the so-called experts
- and their "Canada is ten equal provinces" ideology.
-
- 1. Quebec is different not because Quebec is better, but simply because
- Quebec has different needs than other provinces. For instance, why does
- BC have special constitutional guarantees for railroad links (answer...
- all provinces were not created equally).
-
- 2. Quebec is NOT a minority, notwithstanding Todd's assertion. Quebec is
- a political jurisdiction where at least four fifths of the population
- shares the French language as its mother tongue. This is something critics
- of Quebec ALWAYS bring up. Bilingualism, whatever merits it has, is nothing
- more than a hammer with which English Canada can swing at Quebec. In Ontario
- there are countless francophones who are denied French services from the
- government but there are THOUSANDS of anglophone kids who learn French free
- in immersion. English Quebecers may have had rough times in the last 20
- years but that is NOTHING to what French minorities in Canada have faced and
- continue to face (New Brunswick's COR party advocating a race war on Acadians,
- for example). Bilingualism is not the real issue, it is English Canada's
- continued obession with the English minority in Quebec.
-
- 3. What we have here is a conflict of visions. Your Canada excludes Quebec
- because it demands that Quebec conform (while the rest of the country pays
- lip service) to minority rights guarantees and all the rest. Your Canada
- excludes Quebec because English Canadians in general want to have a strong
- central dictatorship/democracy in Ottawa and Quebecers want their own province
- to decide its own destiny. Will renewed federalism work.... I don't believe
- that English Canada and the federal regime (whoever is in Ottawa) will ever
- find a solution that is acceptable to Quebecers. Todd's attitudes, while very
- moderate in tone, reflect the inevitable clash of values that divides Quebecers
- and English Canada.
-
- I don't always appreciate what Parizeau says, but I was forced to agree with
- him on the eve of the Non vote in Quebec. Parizeau said that English Canadians
- (rest of Canada, if you prefer) should define their country as they see it
- and Quebecers should define their country as they see it. In essence, if you
- want Canada to reflect certain values that Quebec may never accept (universal
- day care, for example), then maybe it is better to declare a divorce due to
- irreconciable differences then to continue a tortured marriage. Give it a
- thought. Canada needs some radical change and this generations leaders are
- not going to bring it. And maybe Quebec and English Canada can live side by
- side as friends instead of as angry spouses arguing in a divided home.
-
- --
- J. P. LaRocque
- vader@uwo.ca
- University of Western Ontario
- London, Ontario
-
- "Urk..urk..."
- "Apologies accepted", Darth Vader
-
-