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- From: hardy@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Hardy Hulley)
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- Subject: Re: Just a repression (was Re: Just a thought - [subject deleted]
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.204743.28725@ucthpx.uct.ac.za>
- Date: 22 Nov 92 20:47:43 GMT
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- barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr. Aaron Barnhart) writes:
- : nevin@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Nick) wrote:
- : :
- : :In article <BxxrLD.CMu@ddsw1.mcs.com> barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr.
- : :Aaron Barnhart) writes:
- : :
- : :> And I would simply add that Mr. Wohlberg understands what SA's version
- : :> of "freedom of speech" is -- by immediately clamping arbitrary unfreedoms
- : :> onto it -- and that makala has joyously embraced the American version,
- : :> freedom unconditionally, that reflects the best of what this country has
- : : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?
- : :> to offer.
- : :>
- : :
- : :And what you would simply add is simply bullshit. Even in the United States
- : :there are certain restrictions on speech.
- :
- :
- : Depends on your vision, Mr. Hothead. I just finished reading Nat Hentoff's
- : _Free Speech for Me -- But Not for Thee_, his new book. Hentoff certainly
- : doesn't believe there are "certain restrictions on speech" at least not so
- : far as I can tell.
-
- It's quite obvious that there should be limitations placed upon what people
- may say - shouting "FIRE" in a crowded cinema, for example, is a distinct
- no-no. Anybody who supports unqualified freedom of speech is simply foolish.
-
- : And you don't see makala holding back either, whereas his predators would
- : seem to be saying, if only we had your chain to yank over here, pal,
- : you wouldn't be allowed to post your rubbish.
-
- Oh toad-crap! Nobody is in the least interested to inhibit Mweene's freedom of
- expression - personally I find reading his stuff a wonderfully humerous way to
- start every day. Unfortunately, however, Paul isn't simply exercising free
- speech, he's indulging in libel, and in America (just as here) there are strong
- laws designed combat such behaviour.
-
- : Rubbish or not, politically correct or not, it should be expressed in
- : America, regardless. If you see that fine ideal being ground into
- : "bullshit," well then do something about it.
-
- Perhaps Mweene should entertain us all with a long (and obviously fictional)
- diatribe about your personal life. It would be interesting to see how long
- your peculiar interpretation of freedom of speech persists - not very long I
- suspect, but then you Yanks do change your minds ever so often.
-
- : I am re-posting this to alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk for starters.
-
- You could embarress yourself if anybody there knows anything about free speech!
-
- : Aaron
-