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- From: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
- Subject: Britz Reveals A Fraud
- Message-ID: <921116233252_72240.1256_EHL69-1@CompuServe.COM>
- Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller)
- Reply-To: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
- Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:32:07 GMT
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- To: >INTERNET:fusion@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
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- Dieter Britz writes:
-
- "One thing you have not addressed is WHY such a fine wire was used there. You
- or Notoya clearly went to some trouble to put it there. As I say, it can't
- have been easy to solder it on, and one doesn't accidentally grab a bit of 40
- mu wire instead of a normal lead, like the fat one connected to the other
- cell. Come on, allay my suspicions, convince me this was not a premeditated -
- shall we politely say, false-front PR demo setup.
- Don't wait for me to telephone/fax you, tell us here."
-
- I tell you what, right here, right now. I thought you were making a sick joke
- the other day when you suggested it was a 'false front PR demo' (a fraud). Now
- I see you really mean it. You are completely out of your mind! Why on earth
- would anyone do that? As I have stated, over and over again, Notoya will bring
- the very same device, with new wires, to M.I.T. on Dec. 3; and she invites
- *anyone* to investigate it, and measure the resistance, or measure anything
- else they want.
-
- She said that, I translated it and said it right here, and you ignored me,
- because you are crank and a fool, I suppose. What on earth do you think she
- could accomplish by setting up a 'false front?' It would last until the
- afternoon of December 3rd. It is nuts! She would simply destroy her career and
- become a laughingstock. And how on earth would she get people like Mizuno and
- her boss Enyo to go along with it? Mizuno was quoted in the national
- newspapers and on television saying that he had observed he laboratory
- experiments, and they were solid and reliable. Why would *he* want to destroy
- himself? What is the motive?
-
- As to WHY a fine wire was used, she said it was the first thing at hand on her
- workbench, and she did not think twice about it. She had no other reason for
- using it. You are wrong, it was no trouble to work with. She disassembled both
- bottles in my presence, to show me what was in them and how she put them
- together, and it was not the least bit difficult to work with that wire. She
- has replaced the wire already, and the effect continues. I doubt very much
- that the resistance was as high as Steve Jones thought; a silver wire would
- have to be nearly invisible to offer as much resistance as he calculates. I do
- not understand the source of his confusion (if that is what it is), but I
- think it would be wise for him to accept a sample from Notoya; or to wait a
- few weeks and measure the resistance again at MIT; or have someone else do it.
- I suggest it would be far better to use a standard meter, rather than to play
- a guessing game by fiddling with an unfamiliar power supply, and moving around
- alligator clips. Notoya reminds everyone that alligator clips make a poor
- connection, and they can change the resistance and other electrical
- characteristics radically if you do not make certain they are firmly
- connected. It is better to measure at the entrance and exit points of the
- bottle.
-
- She said if she gets a chance, she will measure the size and resistance of the
- discarded wires, so if I hear from her, I will post the numbers. If you don't
- want to believe that she is telling me the truth, or that I am posting what
- she told me, you can go jump into a lake.
-
- When I told her about Steve's comments, she said, "why on earth didn't he ask
- for a small sample of the wire. There was a pair of scissors on the table." It
- seemed to her, and to me, the most obvious and logical thing in the world. I
- certainly would have asked for a sample, if I had any doubts or questions.
- Steve said he talked to her directly, which I am glad to hear. I wish he had
- talked a little more.
-
- As for you, Dieter, for years, you have been pretending that you are an
- objective, fair minded, impartial observer. The man we trust to read the
- literature and give us a "balanced view." Now we see you crawl out from under
- your rock and accuse someone of committing deliberate fraud. You have only the
- thinnest of thin evidence to believe this! There is no earthy reason for
- Notoya to commit fraud; indeed, if she has done so, it will immediately
- destroy her. So, you have jumped to an utterly illogical and untenable
- conclusion, based on nothing more than a few electronic messages, and your own
- warped, suspicious, irrational nature. If you had said, "well, she must be
- incompetent because she accidently used thin wire and dumped the heat into the
- atmosphere," that would be a reasonable, tenable conclusion. I think that is
- what Steve Jones has concluded about her as a person, and I respect him in
- that regard. It is perfectly okay to suggest that a person has made a dumb
- mistake, since we all do that from time to time.
-
- But when you flew off on a tangent, and started making this outrageous,
- untenable suggestion that she was deliberately lying, you have lost all
- credibility. You have revealed that you are *not* fair, *not* reasonable,
- *not* trusting, and therefore not trustworthy. It has all been a masquerade,
- you are part of the pack of ruthless hyenas who will attack any cold fusion
- scientist who dares to make any important claim, like the gang that drove Pons
- and Fleischmann out of the country, and into the arms of Toyota Motor Company.
- You are revealed yourself as a fraud.
-
- You should be ashamed of yourself. Even if Notoya made a dreadful mistake,
- that is not the same as committing fraud, and you owe her an apology for
- suggesting that it is. I am not going to say anything more about your
- outrageous and uncalled for behavior. I am through with you, and I will not be
- baited into saying anything more. I could not "allay your suspicions" in 100
- years, because they are based on nothing more than your own unyielding,
- irrational lack of imagination and lack of trust in your fellow scientists.
-
- Indeed, I am not going to say another word about Notoya's experiments. Words
- are wasted when another actual public demonstration is three weeks away.
- Anyone is welcome to come, and you are free to measure whatever you want with
- the cell. I expect that the so-called "skeptics" like Dieter Britz are cowards
- and will not come; or they are such fools that they believe these electronic
- letters implicitly, so they have made up their minds, and they will not bother
- to look for themselves, or send someone they trust to look. That is up to
- them, I personally could not care less whether a single so-called "skeptic"
- comes or not. I will be in the audience, it is not my lecture, and not my
- demonstration. I expect it will work, but only God Almighty knows for sure.
-
- I will be too busy to post messages the rest of this week, so let me offer one
- more suggestion to Steven Jones: If you have the time to run that weird
- experiment with the resister on the outside of the bottle, which got you two
- thirds the way to simulating Notoya, why don't you take a few more hours and
- try an experiment with spongy nickel and potassium carbonate? Why not try the
- real experiment? Contact Mallove, Srinivasan or I for a protocol, because
- there are, after all, many ways to do this experiment incorrectly, as
- Srinivasan said.
-
- - Jed
-
-