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- Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech
- Subject: Re: Hypotheses (was: Re: Assumptions vs.
- Message-ID: <10292327.52113.11642@kcbbs.gen.nz>
- From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
- Date: 23 Nov 92 14:28:33 GMT
- Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
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- > In article <10292322.79320.9942@kcbbs.gen.nz> Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Ha
- > >> I wrote:
- > >> >> What person thinks he saw can easily be slightly different from what h
- > >> >> actually saw.
- > >>
- > >> In article <10292319.81767.18770@kcbbs.gen.nz> Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz
- > >> >and how would you know that ?
- > >>
- > >> Because there have been times when *I* thought I saw something, and later
- > >
- > >yes, you thought you _saw_....but you didn't see it clearly...
- > >
- > >> evidence (looking at it more closely, for example) led me to conclude tha
- > >> had been mistaken.
- > >
- > >then you saw it better...
- > >
- > >>
- > >> >I think you are in a loop.
- > >>
- > >> I think you are raising a philosophical point irrelevant to the discussio
- > >
- > >how do you know ?
- > >
- > >> at hand. If you want to define perception in such a way that it is not
- > >> possible to mistaken about a perception, go right ahead; but that is not
- > >
- > >we are not talking about "perception", we are talking about the use of
- > >the word "see"....
- > >
- > >> sense of the word I had in mind.
- > >
- > >and I am not interested what is the sense of this word in your mind, unless
- > >you can put it on the sceen :-)
- >
- > If you have a point which is relevant to the discussion, please make it.
- ^^^^^
- You mean an opinion....no I have no opinion...yet.
-
- > All I can get from this is that you don't like my word choices. If, on the
-
- But my friend this is sci.philosophy.tech, is it NOT ?
- and
-
- "
- Philosophical questions, when you boil them down to what they
- really amount to, change their aspect entirely. What evaporates is
- what the intellect cannot take. MS 159, 3b.
-
- Philosophical investigations: conceptual investigations. The
- essencial thing about metaphysics: it obliterates the distinction
- between factual and conceptual investigations.
-
- Philosophy is embodied not in propositions but in a language.
-
- A main souce of our failure to understand is that we do not command
- a clear view of the use of our words. Our grammar is lacking in
- perspicuity....PI 42.
-
- It is the task of philosophy to achieve an order, an order which
- gives complete clarity.
-
- Der Begriff der uebersichtlichen Darstellung is fuer uns von
- grundlegender Bedeutung. Er bezieichnet unsere Darstellungsform,
- die Art wie wir die Dinge sehen.
- Diese uebersichtliche Darstellung vermittelt das Verstaendnis,
- welches eben darin besteht, dass wir die "Zusammenhaenge sehen".
- Daher die Wichtigkeit des Findens von Zwischeng liedern.
- (connections, itermediate-links) RFGB 9
- (read further: "formalen Zusammen hangs = formal connections) see
- how he ties to set up connections with ghost, shade, soul, spirit)
-
- We must distinguish the concepts from each other one by one..It is
- helpful to note both differences and similarities. Man 167.
-
- The matter cannot be clarified by raging against your words, but by
- trying to turn your attention away from the use of the words (Man
- 228, $44; cp $$120,144). It is never right to say simply: 'no, that
- is false, it must be abandoned'. (man 112, 197; cp $$423-24;Z 460)
- "
-
- > other hand, this whole line of commentary was a joke, it wasn't funny.
-
- I know it is NOT funny...because:
-
- "
- Philosoph isn't anything except philosophical problems, the
- particular individual worries that we call "philosophical
- problems:"
-
- What has to be overcome is not a difficulty of understanding but of
- the will. PI 59-60.
-
- Philosophy has close affinity to Politics. (Ibn Rushd's Commentary
- on Plato's Republic)
- "
-