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- From: Steven.Schultz <Steven.Schultz@mixcom.mixcom.com>
- Subject: Re: Iranian Kilo / Shallow water ASW / Submarine SAMs
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:34:07 GMT
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- From Steven.Schultz <Steven.Schultz@mixcom.mixcom.com>
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- In <By0tEp.8pB@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> Jan I Wolitzky
- <wolit@mhuxd.att.com> writes:
-
- >The report says that a platform on the Kilo that has been delivered,
- >not present on standard Kilos, can be used for launching "SA-14 or
- >SA-16" IR-guided surface-to-air missile.
-
- Some Kilos have SAM systems, however, I have read that they were most
- likely fitted in the sail. It is interesting that there is an external
- platform for launching.
-
- The way I have heard of them, the Typhoon and Kilo-class carry a 4 ft
- diameter pressure proof, clyindrical container that is extended from
- the sail for launch. The container carries 12-18 SA-N-5 Grail
- (Navalized SA-7 Grail) or SA-N-8 Gremlin (Navalized SA-14 Improved
- Gremlin.)
-
- When the cylinder isn't raised, they can be identified by hinged blast
- deflectors on the sail, and of course, these are moved to the
- appropraite position during firing.
-
- >My Aviation Week spec sheet, from 3/16/92, describes the SA-14
- >"Gremlin" as a solid-fuel, 1-stage, shoulder-launched, IR-guided
- >replacement for the SA-7 "Grail", with up to 3 mile range. The sheet
- >has no information at all on the SA-16. Does anyone else have
- details
- >on this?
-
- Grail series
- Names:
- Land use: Soviet/C.I.S. designation 9M32 Strela and 9M32M Strela
- NATO designation SA-7A Grail and SA-7B Grail
- Naval use: Soviet/C.I.S. 2M Strela
- NATO SA-N-5 Grail
- Manufacturer: UNKNOWN, Russia, C.I.S.
- Dimensions: 70 mm X 1.34 m (2.76 X 52.8 in)
- Weight: 9.2 kg (20.3 lbs)
- Propulsion: boost-sustain rocket
- Performance:
- SA-7A:
- Range: 49.2-3,830 yd (45-3,500 m)
- Altitude: 164-1,640 yd (150-1,500 m)
- Speed: Mach 1.5
- SA-7B:
- Range: 49.2-6,125 yd (45-5,600 m)
- Altitude: 27.3-4,700 yd (25-4,300 m)
- Speed: Mach 1.95
- SA-N-5:
- Range: 3.6 km; min 800 m
- Altitude: 50-3,500 m (875-3,900 yd; 165-11,500 ft)
- Warhead:
- SA-7A: 3.96 lb (1.8 kg) HE-Fragmentation
- SA-7B: 5.5 lb (2.5 kg) HE-Fragmentation:
- SA-N-5: 1.1 kg (370 g RDX/AP) (2.4/0.82 lb)
- Notes:
- The SA-7A was designed as a platoon self-defense weapon and entered
- service in 1966. The improved SA-7B entered service in 1972. They have
- been supplied to all former Warsaw Pact armies, Soviet client states,
- and terrorist and guerrilla groups. The SA-N-5 began service in the
- early '70's. It was designed as a counter to the 1959 announcement of
- the U.S. Redeye. The missile is hand-held or fired from a quadruple
- launcher in the Naval version. It uses an optical sighting and
- tracking device, and the operator activates the IR seeker when a
- target is acquired. A light denotes seeker lock-on, and the missile is
- fired in a tail-chase flight profile. It reportedly is good only
- against a hot-tailpipe of an aircraft, and easy to counter. The SA-7
- is produced in Egypt as the Sakr Eye, and in China as the HN-5 (HN
- means Hong Nu, or Red Cherry.) The Chinese then modified them to the
- HN-5A, with a more powerful warhead, better seeker for greater
- detection and discrimination against clutter, and a more powerful
- rocket for further range. These missiles are used on submarines as
- noted above, many Naval vessels, and personnel use. In the early
- 1980's, the system was improved to the SA-14 Gremlin:
-
- SA-14
- Names:
- Land use: Soviet/C.I.S. designation UNKNOWN
- NATO designation SA-14 Gremlin
- Naval use: Soviet/C.I.S. designation UNKNOWN
- NATO designation SA-N-8 Gremlin
- Dimensions: 20 cm XX 3.5 m (7.9 X 103 in)
- Weight: 200 kg (441 lb)
- Warhead: 20 kg (44 lb)
- Propulsion: two stage boost-sustain rocket
- Speed: Mach 3
- Range: 15 km
- Altitude: max 12 km (16,400 yd; 39,000 ft)
- Notes:
- SA-14 is an improved version, but without the capabilty of the U.S.
- FIM-92A Stinger. Entered service in 1980.
-
- SA-16
- This weapon is an improved SA-14, and was displayed first in March
- 1990 at the Defense Services Asia Exposition at Kuala Lampur. The
- Soviet/C.I.S. designation is Igla (Needle). The IR seeker has a 40
- degree F.O.V., rather than earlier 5 degree, probably has an IR
- imaging system or laser seeker. Max. range is 5000 m (5500 yd),
- altitude is 10-3500 m (33-11,500 ft), max, target speed is 360 m/sec
- (700 kt) and missile speed is 570 m/sec (1100 kt.) Reaction time is 5
- sec. The missile has front-attack, and better discrimination.
-
- --
- Steve Schultz Steven.Schultz@mixcom.com
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