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- From: ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: Re: GPS vs "Friendly Fire"
- Message-ID: <By4LBJ.CF8@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>
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- Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
- References: <Bxx2F4.C0@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:18:55 GMT
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- From ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu (Gary Coffman)
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- In article <Bxx2F4.C0@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:
- >
- >I'm curious.
- >Did "every" vehicle in DS have a GPS unit? If so, how could GPS be used
- >to prevent future "Friendly Fire" accidents?
- >With digital encoding of radio signals, and GPS together, why couldn't
- >all friendly units be tracked constantly, or at least "checked" before
- >fired upon? I know computer technology is there. Am I way behind here?
- >Seems to me like a fire-system computer could do a .5 nano-second check
- >on a target in aquisition. Of course I realize that in many cases, there
- >is no time for anything other than kill or be killed.
-
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- I don't think every vehicle had GPS. At least I know that the Army bought
- thousands of civilian GPS receivers and turned off the selective availability
- degradation on the GPS satellites for the duration of the war so they could
- use them. That indicates to me that they didn't have enough military capable
- receivers. Now those civilian receivers couldn't be integrated into a central
- tracking system. Also the entire GPS satellite constellation is not deployed
- yet so there were times when the receivers didn't know where they were.
- This affected the timing of some attacks, including the opening attack
- from the air.
-
- On the subject of digitally encoded radio. The Army bought amateur radio
- TNCs on the open market to give them a digital communications capability.
- These operate at 1200 baud on VHF and 300 baud on HF. Since they're half
- duplex and operate an ARQ protocol, their thruput is effectively less than
- half their baudrate. With the thousands of vehicles present, there simply
- wasn't enough communications capability to update vehicle positions in
- anything like real time. Besides, in a combat operation, total radio
- silence is SOP until mainforce units are fully engaged. The radio signals
- could give away your location to the enemy.
-
- In addition, Iraqi amateur radio operators had this equipment too, and
- in at least one documented case an Iraqi joined the network and sent a
- query about the health and welfare of a relative in the battle area!!
- The possibility of intercept when using such unsecure communications to
- send sensitive information like current vehicle positions should be
- clear.
-
- Finally, even assuming full availability of GPS and secure military
- digital communications, sub-nanosecond fuzzy logic database searches
- aren't reality even in the fastest research computers. Fortunately,
- such superfast searching isn't required, but the entire system should
- be able to respond to a weapons system IFF query in under a second
- to be useful in battle. That's way beyond the capabilities of anything
- in military service at present.
-
- Gary
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