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- From: "david.r.wells" <drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com>
- Subject: Re: Marine Aircover <was New Carrier Plan>
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:33:13 GMT
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- From "david.r.wells" <drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com>
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- In article <BxB8D9.KL3@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> Dan Sorenson <viking@iastate.edu> writes:
- >
- >>>that can bring down a strike aircraft at 40K feet. For the crew size and
- >>>cost of operating a battleship, too, we could probably have strike
- >>>aircraft loaded and on station 24 hours/day for the same price, and
- >>>they would have an additional benefit of range.
- >>>
- >>Could you really? A carrier takes 5500 men (including aircrew), a BB
- >>takes 1500. Carriers aren't exactly cheap either. I maintain that BBs
- >>are just the thing for shore bombardment.
- >
- > Don't get me wrong -- I *LOVE* battleships for hammering
- >shorelines! [Dan's excellent historical citations deleted]
-
- Then join me in their verbal defense!! :-)
-
- >
- >don't overlook just the manpower cost (1500 people to crew the ship versus
- >how many to crew 12 strike aircraft for 2-hour flights?), but also
- >the fuel costs, maintainence, ordinance, more limited range (a big
- >benefit in some ways, less so in others). To be honest, I wasn't
- >thinking of carriers here, I was thinking of land-based aircraft
- >flying sorties from nearby air bases. The expense of a carrier blows
- >the cost to the moon and back for those aircraft, and the loss factor
- >should the carrier be hit would be astronomical. Total agreement there.
- >
- You should be thinking of carriers for this comparison. You can't always count
- on a nearby airbase, especially in these days of base closings! Even if
- you could, aircraft are even worse fuel hogs than BBs. Keeping them in
- the air 24 hours a day would be a maintainence nightmare. I doubt you
- could keep 24 hour a day flights going for very long, especially with only
- 12 aircraft. You'll run out of pilots real fast. That doesn't even begin
- to figure in any combat losses.
- Anybody have any good data on how much it costs to run one sortie
- of, say, an F-16, including fuel, munitions, etc? I'll bet it doesn't
- run cheap. By the way, I was just talking to an Air Force friend the
- other day, and he was saying that he works at a "small" airbase, only
- 5000 people. The 1500 man crew of the BB is looking better all the time!
-
- David Wells
-
- DISCLAIMER: My opinions, not AT&Ts.
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