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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Re: Another fundamental group question
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 21:48:50 GMT
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- In article <1eejigINNaqm@agate.berkeley.edu> fogel@rosarita.berkeley.edu (Micah E. Fogel) writes:
- >
- > I once saw in this newsgroup an article describing a space that was
- >supposed to have fundamental group equal to some non-discrete group (I think
- >it was the reals, but the rationals is also possible). Or was I just dreaming?
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- Note that unless you know a way to put a natural topology on the
- fundamental group of a space - other than the discrete one - it is not
- very bad that R and Q are not discrete groups. I.e., one is only
- looking for a space whose fundamental group is isomorphic to R or Q as
- *groups*, not as *topological groups*.
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- Anyway, once one has a description of a group in terms of generators and
- relations one can easily cook up a space with that fundamental group.
- Simply take a bouquet of circles, one for each generator, and attach
- 1-cells in a manner prescribed by the relations. Q is countably
- generated so one can use countably many generators. R is uncountably
- generated so the space constructed this way will be quite big and weird.
- But for *any* group G one can construct a space X with fundamental group G.
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