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- From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
- Newsgroups: sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
- Message-ID: <56456@dime.cs.umass.edu>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 18:57:03 GMT
- References: <1992Nov16.165144.11105@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> <56343@dime.cs.umass.edu> <1992Nov17.160248.23062@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov17.160248.23062@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Richard Dyrda) writes:
- >>In article <56343@dime.cs.umass.edu> yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
- >>The surviving relatives of the poor fellow that the French murdered in
- >>Australia might disagree with your assessment of the French government.
- >
- > I never said I agreed with the French government. All I said was one
- >day Greenpeace may learn the difference between fishing trollers and
- >Missile Cruisers.
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- I believe that if they did not know the difference already,they might
- have learned it after the French government showed that it was willing
- to murder unarmed protesters.
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- >
- >>In any event, it's rather humorous to see
- >>all these tears for the victimization of the governments
- >>of two of the worlds most powerful nations when confronted with unarmed
- >>protesters. Many anti-environmentalists seem to live in an inverse reality
- >>where General Electric, the government of France, and the US government are
- >>weak powerless victims of the mighty citizen lobbying organizations.
- >
- > Cmon! Greenpeace totally preys in on the big nations because they know
- >they can not risk any sort of bad publicity. Greenpeace, or some other
-
- This statement is, surprise, counter-factual. The French government
- certainly showed that it was willing to risk bad publicity when it
- sent a terrorist team to bomb the Greenpeace boat and then again when
- it used strong arm tactics and lies to get its terrorists out of
- New Zealand's jails.
-
- >radical envirornmentalist group, tried to board a Soviet fishing
- >vessel in the North Pacific once, too bad they found out it was a KGB spy
- >troller, and they almost got shot out of the water. Our government is
- >extremely tolerant to these type of groups.
-
- Well, that's because we have a semi-democracy where the right to peaceful
- protest is still preserved. Got a problem with this?
-
- >>It is the Sea Shepherds who ram Japanese trawling
- >>ships, and Sea Shepherds split from Greenpeace on the issue of whether
- >>such "enforcement" tactics were a good idea.
- >
- > Maybe but they are all in the movement. Perhaps one day, soon
-
- Pathetic. Is it your contention that the Japanese rammed a Greenpeace
- boat to get revenge for the actions of another environmental organization?
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- >hopefully, Greenpeace has a big awakening call. Imagine if a US Naval
- >Frigate just stopped a French merchant vessel, boy would our
- >Government catch hell over it. But since its a peace loving group
- >like Greenpeace, oh no they can disobey any law and get away with it!
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- Sure. Many people recognize a difference between the actions of the armed
- forces of a nation and the actions of unarmed non-violent citizens groups.
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