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- From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Subject: Cryptography by private citizens (was Re: Demons and Ogres)
- In-Reply-To: ritter@cactus.org (Terry Ritter)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.202131.1061@nntp.hut.fi>
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:21:31 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.103439.19143@cactus.org>, ritter@cactus (Terry Ritter) writes:
- > I see no reason to think that corporations would not be granted
- > easy-to-get licenses if they use particular types of equipment.
- >
- > In fact, a March 1987 article in Data Communications magazine
- > described NSA's Commercial Comsec Endorsement Program (CEEP) and
- > Project Overtake encryption equipment in two classes: Types I
- > and II. Type I would be available only to government agencies and
- > contractors, but a Type II "module" would be a replacement for DES
- > equipment, and would be built into a computer or communications
- > device and sold by a vendor.
-
- > Business use and personal use are two different things. I think
- > it quite likely that the government would like to license the
- > first, and minimize the second. Consequently, arguments based on
- > American business competitiveness may be totally irrelevant to the
- > continued use of strong cryptography by individuals.
-
- Is this really what U.S. citizens want?
-
- If it is, you've gone very far from the ideas and principles of the
- Constitution. Doesn't China currently have a somewhat similar policy
- towards it's citizens, ie. supporting capitalism/business but not
- individual or political freedom?
-
- If it is not, it makes me wonder where is the problem, ie. what causes
- such a great gap between what citizens want and what the government
- wants.
-
- Somehow this development doesn't seem isolated. Take for instance
- psychoactive substances - it's illegal to use stuff like amphetamines
- as a private citizen, but in the army, when you're part of the
- governemnt organization, it's OK.
-
- Followups directed out of sci.crypt.
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- //Jyrki
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