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- From: gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)
- Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
- Subject: Re: The Great Pyramid of Giza
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.174405.8834@digi.lonestar.org>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 17:44:05 GMT
- References: <Bxyq15.6zL@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1992Nov19.143827.12305@spectrum.xerox.com>
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- Chris Heiny writes, in part, in response to Zerxes M. Bhagalia:
-
- >>"The pyramid's now almost totally despoiled original outer casing of polished
- >>limestone (all twenty-one acres of it) was levelled and honed to the standard
- >>of accuracy normal in modern optical work."
-
- >How do we know this if almost all of the casing is now missing?
-
- I have to agree with this. This claim about optical accuracy may be true,
- but I find it hard to see how it could be demonstrated. Likewise it
- would be helpful to review the mensuration data on which the claims
- for optical bench accuracy of the alignment is based. Can anyone find
- a source that works out the details of either of these claims? (Let's
- look at the source first, and base our judgment of its scientific
- accuracy its content, whatever "orthodoxy" may say about the author).
-
- >>Any one with some wooden stakes, some string, and a reasonable idea of
- >>the location of the pole star could do the same.
-
- Could anyone with a million seventy ton stone blocks that he was
- required to cut out of distant mountains, transport finish, haul, move
- into place, and cement do the same? And do it not once but several
- times?
-
- >>If you choose an arbitrary unit, you can measure anything so it comes out
- >>as a function of pi and 365.242. You could define a Sacred Stadia so that
- >>an ancient hippodrome is exactly pi stadia around if you wanted. This proves
- >>nothing.
-
- If the sacred stadia and cubit were widely used measures then their precise
- incorporation into the structure of the pyramids is not a circular or self
- defining thing. Likewise, if the same proportions hold sway to the same
- degree of accuracy in just two pyramids, then that reveals an impressive
- precision and purpose in their design and construction. However, both the
- units of measure and the actual measurements of the pyramids needs some
- kind of verification. Zerxes, can you help us here?
-
- >"Next, a fine cement was then run into these joints
-
- >>Do any of you people ever consider the idea of placing the cement before
- >>setting the blocks?
-
- This may have been impossible, considering that the new block was 70 tons
- in weight. Moving and precisely aligning the block after it had been
- cemented might have taken too long so that the cement dried, especially
- considering that two sides had to be aligned and cemented simultaneously.
- This is a speculation, but certainly there must be expert documentation on
- the problem from legitimate sources. Can you provide this, Zerxes? Also,
- Is there cement between the blocks on one layer and the layer above? And
- what do we know about the composition and properties of the cement?
-
- Please avoid the inflamatory "you people". Respond to Zerxes statements.
- Everyone has their own point of view.
-
- Also, you left out the rest of Zerxes's sentence:
-
- >so expertly as to give an even coverage of areas as big as five
- >feet by seven.
-
- The significance here is a technical question for an expert in masonry.
- I recall reading about the astounding precision of the cutting, joining,
- and cementing in college texts that were completely orthodox. I.e.
- even egyptologists who firmly believe that the pyramids were tombs have
- marveled at the masonry. Can anyone enlighten us here?
-
- >>Has anyone ever found a flying saucer in one?
-
- No, and therefore it is reasonable to conclude that the pyramids were
- not used to garage flying saucers, just as the absence of a mummy
- or any signs of one ever having been there is evidence that they
- weren't used as tombs. Aside from the fact that you turned your own
- logic against yourself, this remark is really a flame. Zerxes said nothing
- about flying saucers. He speaks for himself, he is not one of "you
- people".
-
- In sum, I think we do need some real concrete evidence about the
- measurement, the precision of alignment, and the construction. Everything
- so far, including my own assertions, has been just that, assertions. Most
- of us are amateurs. Same for the traditionalist side of this debate. If
- the numbers and the construction really do show evidence of the difficulty
- and complexity these statements claim for the pyramids, then we have
- grounds to continue.
-
- Certainly more than one technically competent examiner of the pyramids has
- expressed astonishment at their construction, without looking to the left
- or to the right as far as drawing any conclusions about how or for what
- it was done. Can anyone provide a reference?
-
- Gerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
-