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- From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
- Subject: Re: Hi-Fi video VS LaserDiscs
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:41:56 GMT
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- Tim Russell (trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu) wrote:
-
- > Bob (Niland) PLEASE feel free to hop in here, because I for one would
- > LOVE to know how a LD can ever sound 10 times worse than VHS Hi-fi!
-
- LD digital is basically the same as CD digital. LD analog sound is on a par
- with VHS HiFi. LD analog, with or without CX hasn't quite the same
- signal/noise ratio as HiFi, but HiFi has 60Hz head-switching compression
- artifacts that can be annoying.
-
- Thoughts:
-
- 0. Are we sure we are talking about LD digital here? Not all LDs have
- digital sound (they all do have analog). Some older players, and the
- 1989-vintage Pioneer LD-870 don't have digital audio circuits. If we are
- talking analog, we need to explore CX screw ups.
-
- 1. All other things being equal, a digital sound LD should sound better than
- a VHS HiFi tape. Of course, any sound on any medium can be messed up if
- it is mastered improperly (the second most likely explanation).
-
- 2. If the digital signal is recorded too soft, you'll hear quantization
- error when you crank it up to normal levels. This is exceedingly rare.
-
- 3. If the digital signal is recorded too hot, you'll hear digital clipping
- on the transients and louder sounds. Digital clipping almost always
- sounds horrible compared to clipping in any analog format. This is
- uncommon.
-
- 4. If the digital audio bits were summed at an incorrect level (supposed to
- be -26dB with respect to the video carrier), the signal may trigger
- various error correction and concealments in the player. The sonic
- results vary from player to player. Rare.
-
- 5. Most likely: At -26dB, the digital "duty-cycle" modulation of the
- pulse-FM video carrier is fragile. If the disc and/or player are
- marginal or defective, the digital sound detection can wander in and out,
- triggering ECC, just as in step 4. Again, depending on the player, it
- can sound awful.
-
- 6. If you are using a post-processor (e.g. Dolby Pro-Logic) in the audio
- chain, particularly a digital processor like a Lexicon, and the
- processor's input hasn't been calibrated so that a 0dB sound on an LD is
- 0dB in the processor, you can be causing digital clipping (if hot) or
- dipping into quantization noise (if soft).
-
- Regards, Hewlett-Packard
- Bob Niland Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM 3404 East Harmony Road
- CompuServe: 71044,2124 Ft Collins CO 80525-9599
-
- This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
- official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
- Company. The text is provided for informational purposes only. It is
- supplied without warranty of any kind.
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