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- From: f31922c@kaira.hut.fi (Asko Tapani Huumonen)
- Subject: Dedicated fans? (was: Re: A Proposal For a European Hockey League)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.150146.283@nntp.hut.fi>
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- Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:01:46 GMT
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- In article <trmakuu.722102105@uta.fi> trmakuu@uta.fi (Marjo Kuusto) writes:
- >
- >> I regard Finnish hockey fans every bit as
- >>dedicated and fanatical as soccer fans in most European countries. In America
- >>people seem to regard sports more like an entertainment that they are paying
- >>for than something like a religion.
- >
- >Just wondering, where on earth did you get that idea? Have
- >you been to the States / Canada watching hockey, baseball or
- >football? I have the idea that they actually are very dedicated
- >and even fanatical, although I'm not sure whether their "fanatical"
- >includes violence. It might,I just don't know. Finnish hockey
- >fans are not a least bit of dedicated. As soon as their team starts
- >losing, many supporters seem to lose interest in anything else than unfair
- >criticism.
- >
- >>themselves. In the only Major League Baseball game I ever attended (and
- >>probably the only one I ever will) half of the crowd never seemed to pay any
- >>attention to what was happening on the field. The crowd attitude in the NHL
- >>games I have seen has not been as bad, but somethig similar anyway.
- >
- >OK, you have been there, it's just that my experience is different.
- >Maybe you should go and see Blue Jays next time.
-
- My opinions of North American sports fans are based on one baseball game
- (Houston Astros visiting NY Mets) and two hockey games (Vancouver at Los
- Angeles and Toronto at New Jersey). I admit that assuming the whole continent
- to be similar may be too much. But that's something they (at least some of
- them) are doing to us (Europeans) all the time.
-
- Of these three games I have witnessed the Mets game was the worst. The traffic
- on the aisles for more hot dogs and beer never ceased during the play. The
- crowd was occasionally loud all right but people seemed to shout for the
- pleasure of shouting without paying too much notice to what was happening on
- the filed. Or maybe baseball is just too difficult game for me to understand.
-
- In LA the fans started leaving the building while there was still ten minutes
- to play the third period. The Kings were three goals ahead at that time if my
- memory serves me right. The guy sitting next to me never seemed to know who the
- Kings players on ice were (except a certain #99). I'm not sure if he had ever
- heard of Jari Kurri (who was playing in Italy at that time).
-
- There certainly are a number of fans in American sports also that are very
- dedicated to their sport and their team. However, I think that the portion of
- those who go to games without too much caring about the sport is larger than in
- Europe.
-
- All the games I saw were practically meaningless regular seasons games where
- winning or losing is really not a big issue for the crowd. Perhaps during the
- playoff-time the atmosphere and crowd attitude is different.
-
- Does criticism towards a losing favourite team really represent lack of
- dedication? Somebody might even regard it as an expression of concern for the
- team's success. I have understood that the fans of FC Barcelona football (or
- soccer if you wish) team are known of being very critical towards their own
- team. Yet, I have never heard anybody blaming them undedicated.
-
- >Marjo
-
-
-
-
- Asko Huumonen | f31922c@kaira.hut.fi | phone 358-0-4522211
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