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- From: dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till)
- Subject: Re: Steve Howe
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.165153.667@sni.ca>
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:51:53 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.103734.9761@netcom.com> arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow) writes:
- >In article <92323.121833RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes:
- >>why should baseball care whether he's a drug addict or not? if convicted
- >>of some crime, drug related or not, he should serve whatever sentence
- >>the judge sees fit, and then become a free agent.
- >>
- >
- >Personally I care because it sends a bad message and sets a real bad precedent
- >every time he gets a new chance. I don't like what it says to our children.
- >I don't like the fact that the next problem case that comes around will have
- >to receive the same treatment. What does this say to Otis Nixon?
-
- I, on the other hand, think that Steve Howe should be allowed to pitch as long
- as he is not in prison. If a player's (alleged) crime is not directly
- related to baseball, punishing the player implies that baseball is above
- the law. Which it isn't.
-
- I realize that parents want to ensure that their children learn
- that drug use is a bad thing. But I don't see any difference between
- the following statements:
-
- "Allowing Steve Howe to pitch is wrong, because it says the
- wrong thing to our children."
-
- "Not locking up Steve Howe is wrong, because it says the
- wrong thing to our children."
-
- Besides, it's not as though the average athlete is a person worthy of
- childish hero-worship. Most athletes are spoiled brats (and who can
- blame them, since they've been treated as special ever since their
- athletic gifts were first noticed). Children should be told that these
- men are to be admired for their athletic abilities, but are not to be used as
- role models.
-
- >Finally, it is real annoying to see baseball give Howe his 8th chance, when
- >Pete Rose is still ineligible for the hall of fame. The logic of baseball
- >always evades me.
-
- I have always believed that Pete Rose is ineligible for one reason:
- because Fay Vincent convinced himself that the stress of the Rose gambling
- case killed Bart Giamatti. (Giamatti was Vincent's close friend.)
- Now that Vincent is gone, the owners are too busy trying to drive salaries
- back into the Stone Age to worry about such minor issues as Rose's
- eligibility for the Hall.
-
- (For what it's worth: I believe that Rose should be eligible for the Hall.
- None of the alleged gambling on baseball accusations have been proven true.
- Sure, he's a scumbag, but he was a great player. Besides, there's a
- precedent: Ty Cobb, who was probably psychotic, is already in.)
-
- --Dave "constantly hearing rumours about Sandy Alomar Jr." Till
- e-mail address: dave@silver.sni.ca or dave@snitor.uucp
- "A virus is system software with no political power." -- Tom Wolfe (modified)
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