home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: sparky!uunet!ogicse!decwrl!adobe!snichols
- From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
- Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
- Subject: Re: Bucs losses
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.172720.24824@adobe.com>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 17:27:20 GMT
- Article-I.D.: adobe.1992Nov18.172720.24824
- References: <Qf2RYGy00WB5QJv3wC@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
- Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
- Lines: 63
-
- In article <Qf2RYGy00WB5QJv3wC@andrew.cmu.edu> Amit Likhyani <al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
- >Smith, and Cole in that order. Simmons protected Albert Martin over
- >Cole, so I infer that he likes Martin more than Cole. One of the 2 was
- >going to start in left field and hit leadoff.
-
- I don't think Martin is really a leadoff hitter.
-
- >year, but this team is going to start over. Albert Martin jacked 20
- >balls out at Buffalo and led the league in triples. You may think I
- >like martin. I have my doubts. He is 24 and will play next year at
- >25(I believe). I really want to see his walking power before I make a
- >judgement.
-
- Martin's numbers at Buffalo: in 420 ABs, he hit .305, slugged .557, and had
- a OBA of .358. Of course, a big chunk of that OBA was in his BA; he drew
- 35 walks. If he hadn't been protected, he would have certainly gone; when
- the Pirates signed him as a minor league free agent last year, they were
- one of 21 teams vying for his services. Given that, and given that he then
- had a very good year at Buffalo, you have to protect him even if you don't
- think he'll pan out; he has trade value if nothing else.
-
- > The obvious solution to me was to protect Cole over Jeff
- >King, but that would never happen. Simmons has made King his
- >reclamation project and he wants all the credit. King will hit homeruns
- >and drive in some runs and eat a ton of outs. The mediots will stay off
- >his back, but we won't.
-
- Save us all from 28 year old reclamation projects. I hope nothing more of
- Dal Maxvill rubbed off on Simmons.
-
- >Ramon Martinez - With Garcia and Bell ahead of him at short, it would be
- >silly to protect him. There really was nothing the Pirates could do
- >about this pick. He is 23 years old and played last year at class A.
- >You figure he won't be ready to play in the majors until 25. You can't
- >protect everyone. I kind of suspected this one.
-
- Martinez' main asset is that he's fast. He doesn't walk, and he doesn't
- have power, but he did post a decent slugging average at Salem mostly
- because he legged out a lot of triples.
-
- >Danny Jackson - Well, Simmons knew he would be taken. After the first pick,
- >KDKA asked Simmons about a rumor that someone may take Jackson in the
- >second round and trade him to Philly. Simmons responded: "It is
- >possible". I guess they just wanted rid of Jackson. He was 4-4 with a
- >3.36 with the Pirates last year. I would not throw that away. This was
- >probably a salary decision. I suspect the guy they really wanted to get
- >rid of was Lind. By leaving Jackson exposed, they asssured that Lind
- >would *NOT* be taken. If Philly wanted Jackson so much, the Pirates
- >might as well made the Phillies trade with them. I think this was a
- >mistake. At the third round, Slaught, Z. Smith and Jackson could have
- >been protected. The Pirates just do not want Jackson. They must feel
- >he is done(like the Cubs did) and had absolutely no interest in signing
- >him after this year. I view Jackson as insurance in case one of the
- >young starters like Cooke, Backlund, Wagner and Neagle falter. I guess
- >when you have so many of them, you figure a couple will pan out. If
- >they are ready, you can trade him. Pitching is too valuable to let it
- >go for nothing.
-
- Nothing more to add to this; I agree completely with Amit. The final
- chapter of the whole Steve Buechele debacle comes to an end.
-
- Sherri Nichols
- snichols@adobe.com
-