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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: Re: Basic Advice
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.172700.4865@ke4zv.uucp>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
- References: <694@zds-ux.UUCP> <1992Nov16.222158.17795@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:27:00 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.222158.17795@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
- >bjstaff@zds-ux.UUCP (Brad Staff) writes:
- >: Bill Nelson writes:
- [about halfwave vertical antennas]
- >: >If it has no ground radials, then it is sensitive to mounting height.
- >: >The radiation impedance changes drastically, from a few ohms to several
- >: >hundred ohms.
- >:
- >: Sounds like it might be a vertical half-wave dipole. Disclaimer: I have
- >: never owned one of these, but I do own a vertical quarter-wave monopole.
- >: :-)
- >
- >Nope. It may be a half-wave vertical, but it is not a half wave dipole.
- >It is end fed, not fed in the middle. Look at the sensitivity of end
- >fed antennas, you will see that it is high for all lengths.
- [deleted]
- >: I'll have to take a look at the effect of using radials on a vertical
- >: half-wave dipole.
- >
- >You don't need radials with a dipole antenna. It would only hurt the
- >performance.
-
- Bill, a halfwave antenna, no matter whether it's fed on an end or in
- the middle, needs no radials to act as a current mirror to make up a
- "missing" half of the antenna. That's the purpose of radials on a 1/4
- wave monopole. Proximity to ground, real or simulated by radials, does
- have effects, *adverse* ones, on halfwave vertical antennas. First,
- the radiation pattern will be skewed upward from the ideal. And second,
- the lower end impedance will be affected by the loss resistance of the
- ground. This decreases the Q of the antenna as well as reducing the
- efficiency of the feeder match.
-
- Ideally, an end fed 1/2 wave vertical has a feedpoint impedance of
- *infinity* since it's a voltage maximum and a current zero. In the real
- world of wire resistance and magnetic and electric coupling to other
- objects, especially real or simulated ground, The feedpoint impedance
- will drop to a few thousand ohms. This still puts severe constraints on
- the matching system since voltages will be very high and flashover is a
- constant factor that must be considered. The further above ground, real
- or simulated, that you can mount a 1/2 wave vertical, the less the pattern
- will be skewed, and the higher the feedpoint impedance will become.
-
- The only significant differences between dipole feed and monopole end
- feed for a halfwave antenna are that the feedpoint is balanced in the
- dipole case, and that the feedpoint impedances are radically different.
- A balanced feedpoint is of little interest unless you are using balanced
- feeders, not the case with coax. That's because the balance will limit
- feeder radiation. The feed point impedance is significant only in that
- it requires different matching networks. In the ideal case, a dipole
- has a voltage zero and a current maximum at the feed point giving a
- zero feed impedance. In the ideal case, an end fed halfwave monopole
- is the reverse situation with a current zero and a voltage maximum
- giving an infinite feed impedance. Antennas are never the ideal case
- and so the dipole has a low feed impedance while the end fed monopole
- has a high feed impedance. Suitable matching networks can be designed
- for either case.
-
- Now a *quarterwave* monopole must have ground, or radials simulatiing
- ground, at it's feed point because it's only *half* of a resonant antenna
- and must simulate the other half in a current *mirror* formed by the
- ground plane. Otherwise, it's just a short end fed random wire with an
- arbitrary reactive impedance at it's feed point and an arbitrary, but
- certainly skewed, radiation pattern. You can't take experience with
- quarterwave verticals and translate it to halfwave verticals. They're
- working on different principles.
-
- Gary KE4ZV
-