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- From: poole@bnr.ca (Thomas Poole)
- Subject: Concert Film Results.
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:37:43 GMT
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- A few weeks ago I solicited opinions on a good film for
- photographing a concert. A few people expressed interest
- in hearing my results so here they are.
-
- The concert was Jethro Tull, in a small venue with about
- 3000 people. I was sitting off to the right, 3 rows back,
- about 30 to 40 feet from center stage. I had a Nikon F3
- with 85mm f1.8 lens. The F3 uses center weighted metering.
- I waited until the whole stage was illuminated to take
- my meter reading, since the whole stage would fill the
- frame. This gave me a reading of 1/250 at f2.8 for 400 film.
- This is
- the reading I bracketed around for the entire show. During
- concerts, the brightness of the lighting rarely changes,
- however the number of lights will change. i.e. the light
- from a single spotlight on a performer is about the same
- as the light on him when the stage is completely lit. In
- my case I could not meter on a single person since
- I was too far away so I had to meter on the whole stage.
-
- I shot 12 frames of Ilford Delta 400 black and white negative,
- 24 of Fuji Super HR 400 colour negative
- and 24 of Kodak Gold Plus 400 colour negative.
- I brought Fuji 1600 as well just in case I needed it but
- there was plenty of light for the 400 film. Results with
- the Ilford black and white were good. The exposure lattitude
- of black and white is greater than the colour so these
- shots I can definitely use. Black and white is definitely
- more forgiving under these circumstances, when an accurate
- light reading is not possible. The Fuji results were poor.
- The colours were terrible. The colours were washed out and
- the skintones overexposed. The ones with less exposure had
- a grey cast to them with the colours very dull. Not acceptable
- at all.
- The Kodak results were great. Ian was wearing a lot of bright
- yellow and blue and the colours came through very good. Skin
- tones were good, although some were overexposed a little but
- I didn't get the total washout that occurred with the Fuji.
- The background came through totally black too, where the
- Fuji was more grey.
-
- Overall, I would have to rank the Kodak as my favourite.
- It seemed to be more forgiving and I got better results
- than expected for my first attempt. I would also recommend
- black and white since I can turn about 10 of the 12 shots
- into good photos in the darkroom with a little dodging
- and burning. Leave the Fuji at home.
-
- Tips I learned. Watch the overexposure! Even with taking a
- meter reading with the whole stage lit, overexposure was
- still my greatest problem. Bracket on the downside. If
- possible get as close as you can to take a meter reading
- and use that reading. The amount of light on the stage
- changes but the brightness tends to stay the same. A spot
- meter would have been handy.
-
- I would stick with the medium focal lengths. Not as obtrusive
- as the longer focal lengths and easier to handhold. That
- extra stop or two can also come in handy. You also are in a
- crowded place and the smaller the lens the better for
- moving between people. It also doesn't attract security's
- attention as much :-).
-
- Keep to the faster shutter speeds. I would not go below
- 1/250 for handholding in a place like that. Depending on
- the performer, there can also be a lot of movement on
- stage that needs to be frozen.
-
- The biggest problem I had was trying to load the film in
- the dark. You may want to practice this beforehand.
-
- If anyone has any questions you will have to post to
- the newsgroup since all mail to me seems to bounce and
- I cannot mail to any individuals.
-
- Tom...
-