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- From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
- Newsgroups: rec.photo
- Subject: Re: Resolution of Lens ???
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.180913.3777@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 18:09:13 GMT
- Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Nov19.180913.3777
- References: <Uf2JFiO00iV1M5dkha@andrew.cmu.edu> <Bxw69K.309@world.std.com> <1992Nov19.025409.2162@walter.bellcore.com>
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- In article <1992Nov19.025409.2162@walter.bellcore.com>, jchen@wind.bellcore.com (Jason Chen) writes:
- > In article <1992Nov18.192154.236@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins) writes:
- > >since the resolution made by the latter technique is also influenced by the
- > >film resolution (and maybe by camera shake!). This is clearly seen by the fact
- > >that it is almost impossible to get more than 100 lp/mm when testing any lens
- > >using normal film (including K25, Velvia, or Tech Pan), wheras almost any
- > >lens shows higher resolution than this in the film plane. I have a 500mm f5
- > >that clearly resolves over 250 lp/mm in the film plane and yet I have never
- > >measured better than 80 lp/mm on film (Velvia), despite using the bigest
- > >tripod I can carry (Bogen 3051) and mirror lock-up.
- > >
- > Indeed, I found the film resolution to be the most limiting factor in most
- > cases. However, I don't think 100 lp/mm is hard to achieve. With a good
- > microscope (not those found in Toys'r Us), TMAX-100, and well saturated
- > exposures, you should be able to resolve close to 125 lp/mm.
- >
-
- Jason,
- Do you speak from experience or theory? I know from published film
- specs that I SHOULD be able to resolve 125lp/mm, but I can't. I use a
- Zeiss microscope (not available form Toys'R Us!) to examine negatives and
- slides. The resolution just isn't there. There was an article which I have
- somewhere at home, in which Modern Photography tried to resolve >100 lp/mm
- using every trick they could. Flash exposure, the best (Nikon, Canon, Zeiss,
- Leica) 50mm lenses, the sharpest (Tech Pan, K25 and a bunch of other) films
- they shot at all apertures to get the best possible results etc... They found
- that the BEST lens at its BEST aperture on the BEST film could only just
- squeak by with 100 lp/mm (maybe 101 or 102 lp/mm). They could easily get
- numbers in the high 80's to low 90's but 100 lp/mm was very, very hard.
- Even then these numbers were only in the center of the field.
- If you have test slides or negatives showing 100 lp/mm resolution (vertical
- and horizontal patterns resolved) I'd really like to see them and try to
- figure out what I'm doing wrong!
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