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- From: callred@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Curtis Allred)
- Subject: Re: Persona Name
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.020016.9825@news.Hawaii.Edu>
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:00:16 GMT
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- Greetings all fair gentles on the Rialto!
-
- I am planning on getting seriously involved with the SCA in
- the very near future (about a month), but for reasons I'd rather not
- go into in detail and waste bandwidth, etc. I will not be contacting
- the SCA folks where I am presently domiciled, but will wait until
- after I move to get involved with the people at the new location.
- Geesh, I hope this makes sense.
-
- Anyway, I am in the process of bringing together my persona,
- and have run into a few snags. I realize that these questions could
- very easily be answered by a local group, but because I will be moving
- *right away* I don't really want to go to the bother of talking to
- some one local about joining up and then just to move on (dang- I
- wasn't going to talk about this-oh well). What I am wondering is
- about the creation of a name. I have monitored a lot of the .sig
- files from various posters on the Rialto, and it appears that pretty
- much everbody creates a name that has very little overtly to do with
- their mundane one. I am interested in establishing a persona in the
- late 1200's to late 1300's (still kinda general, I know), and it just
- so happens that my mundane name would fit very nicely with a few minor
- alterations into that time period for someone from England, at least
- so far as I can gather. My first name is Curt, which I *think* is
- period for Middle English, and my last name, Allred, comes from Aldred
- who was the Bishop of Kent that crowned William the Conqueror King of
- England, and so I *know* that it would be period (all of this is from
- family history, which isn't necessarily gospel truth).
-
- So I figured that if I changed my name around a little and
- made it Curt Ald Raed it would be different eenough to be unmistakebly
- *not* my mundane name, but I don't know about this because everybody
- else on the Rialto has such exotic or at least very different names
- from their mundane--perhaps I should let go of any kind of family
- pride and just make up a fantasy name which would fit into the period.
-
- This leads into the other subject: Arms. I wonder if anyone
- out there fights under their old family arms, or is it considered
- pretentious to have a *real* set of arms in the SCA? I am just
- curious about this, seeing as how instead of using the old family
- griffin couped design, I made up my own instead. I figure this
- probably would best be discussed under the heraldry newsgroup, but it
- kinda fits into the SCA one as well.
-
- One more thing, in any study of the period of time that the
- SCA encompasses (especially the latter part), the Christian Church is
- such a dominate ttheme as to be almost inescabably omni-present in
- *every* aspect of life. I have noted tthat there are those who come
- to the Rialto who are self-avowed non-Christian (as is myself), but
- how does one reconcile that with the way things were back then? I
- understand that there were many who went along with what the Church
- said, but who had there own private beliefs on the side (in fact, if I
- am nnot mistaken, this happened well into the 18th century). I am
- referring to people practicing the old European paganism in their won
- quiet way, in opposition to the religious genocide of the Inquisition.
- I am *hoping* to *not* discover that the Inquisition is part of the
- world that the SCA seeks to re-create. I have read that the SCA seeks
- to create the Middle Ages as it *Should* have been, so I am assuming
- that does not include any men dressed in red waiting to put me on thhe
- rack to tear my *confession* from me before they burn my eyes out with
- white-hot tongs and then burn me at the stake (maybe that is what that
- earlier-reported large bonfire inside the tent was). Actually, it
- would rather be fun to see if *this* time around whether the pagans
- might be able to win out over the Christians.
-
- What I am wondering, is there a lot of overtly Christian
- panoply or ritual that occurs within the context of the SCA? I really
- wouldn't care so much if there was, as long as other fomrs of period
- religious beliefs were not suppressed --even though to be in complete
- accuracy, they would need to be. I guess what I am asking is, what is
- the basic religious element at SCA events? To be completely in
- period, does one undergo fasting and bathing before receiving
- Knighthood? Do some SCAdians take on personae as Christian Monks or
- Nuns? Or for that matter, Anglo-Saxon Pagan Priests or Priestesses?
- Or is any kind of public religious demonstration frowned upon (I
- already know about the Pentacle issue).
-
- Thank you dear gentles for allowing a humble beginner to
- intrude upon your limited space of this narrow bridge to bequest a few
- points that have been troubling me.
-
- In earnest,
-
- --Curt Allred
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