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- From: edp@math.zk3.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
- Subject: Re: Voting Analysis
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.134542.27601@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
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- Reply-To: edp@math.zk3.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
- Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
- References: <1992Nov17.155228.29369@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <1992Nov19.185032.14551@eagercon.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:45:42 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.185032.14551@eagercon.com>, eager@eagercon.com
- (Michael J. Eager) writes:
-
- >Therefore, your statement that "not-voting alone is the sole cause of the
- >organization gaining information" seems to have confused the cause and
- >effect.
-
- The statement that not-voting alone is the sole cause of the
- organization gaining information was the conclusion of several other
- statements, including the established context that not-voting alone is
- the sole act of the subject that causes the information to gain
- information -- by not-voting, the subject contributed to a number from
- which the organization gained information, and not-voting was the only
- thing the subject did to so contribute. You did not address any of the
- statements leading to the conclusion, so your criticism is worthless --
- the statements are not in error; the conclusion is true.
-
- > Look closely. It is neither the people in the sample (your group X) nor
- > the people not sampled (your group Y) that did anything. The information
- > was generated by the sampling organization.
-
- Look closely. Would the organization have obtained the information had
- the members of group Y not refrained from voting? Did the members of
- group Y do anything other than not vote that caused the organization to
- obtain the information? The answer is no in both cases. Remember that
- the issue here is what should the decision of the subject be -- the
- subject is a person deciding whether or not to vote. They have no
- control over whomever may be sampling people or any expectation of being
- sampled. The subject has the choice of voting or not voting. By not
- voting, they can contribute to the information which you seem to have
- agreed an organization can collect. So, since it is a goal of the
- subject to have such information sent, it is an intelligent choice for
- the subject not to vote.
-
-
- -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
- "Always mount a scratch monkey."
- edp@rusure.enet.dec.com
-