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- From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
- Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
- Subject: Re: The election
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- Date: 13 Nov 92 16:46:01 GMT
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- matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew Sharp) writes:
- >It is unrealistic to expect the Federal government to allow anyone
- >who says they are a "musician" to have a work visa; a very coveted
- >item which it took my ex-SO three years to get (as a "non-musician").
-
- >I don't think (and feel free to prove me wrong) that Immigration
- >and Naturalization makes aesthetic judgements pertaining to the
- >ideology of a band wanting to play in the U.S.
-
- It's indeed unrealistic on the face of it; however, in this case, I
- believe that the "work visa" in question is only for a limited
- duration - as opposed to what your ex-SO was after.
-
- Actually, it did seem rather clear (particularly during the Reagan
- presidency) - even to me - that the filters used to exclude performers
- had some strong ideological components to them. This extended from
- the Mekons' early attempts at touring to a number of "Nueva Cancion"
- groups from South American, and even included public health nurses
- and "people's clinics" folks trying to get visas for medical conferences
- in Los Angeles that my friend Lois the public health nurse attended,
- along with (this has traditionally been a problem) a bunch of Irish
- folks. It's not necessarily all "dangerous" (choke. chuckle.) music
- like Industrial stuff that does it. The ascendant Right in the early
- 1980s used *precisely* that sort of immigration nonsense when it suited
- their purposes. Heck, they'd use *anything*. I think that at this point,
- there's perhaps more of a problem in determining what counts as a group
- in said foreign country which might "pass judgement." Now that I'm
- thinking about it, I think that there were some cases in the late 1970s
- when some of the great improvisers of Persian music (that Dastgah stuff)
- were not allowed to leave Iran in the years following the revolution
- because the "local" group which judged artistic integrity was composed
- of Mullahs instead of performers, whose views ah...disagreed rather
- violently with the "experts" on the other side of the Iranian border.
- That's a slightly different case, I guess.
- --
- -The world exhausts everything except my eyes/because it is a long walk to the
- world/begun before I was born. In the far corner/the dead woman bows off stage
- The television/crumples into a white dot as the last/train of the evening - my
- train, is announced/I lived in one place. I want to die in another 608-828-3385
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