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- From: urf@icl.se (Urban F)
- Subject: Re: FS??? to British Standard colors
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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:03:49 GMT
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- This has a lot you didn't ask for, but maybe it will help some.
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- == COLMATCH.TXT -- Rev.7i -- 1992-09-27
- Urban Fredriksson, Flyttblocksv., Stockholm, Sweden.
- Please send me suggestions for improvements. No copyright claimed.
-
-
- I am a relativist: The most important thing is that the colours go well
- _together_ on a model; and if it _looks_ right, I think it is! Generally,
- I think you should use slightly lighter colours on a model.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
- GS:Hnnn = Gunze Sanyo acrylics; T:X/XF-nn = Tamiya acrylics; X:Xnnn = Xtracolor;
- P:nnnnnn = Polly S; Hu:nnn = Humbrol; T/MM:nnnn = Testors/Model Master;
- Pr:Mnnn = Precision Paints
- Note: Gloss/matt often substitute for each other.
- 99*x+00*y = Mix x parts 99 + y parts 00 (approximately)
-
- DESIGNATION NAME AND REASONABLE COLOUR MATCHES
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
- FS 595a/595B The colours has no official names, just numbers.
- 1:st figure: 1 = gloss, 2 = semigloss, 3 = lusterless
- 2:nd figure: General color classification group
- 3:rd - 5:th figure: Lower = darker; higher = lighter, _with no other
- significance_. (Assigned with gaps to allow addition of new colours.)
- FS.595 is a colour collection, not a system, so the existence of a 3xxxx
- doesn't imply that there is a 1xxxx.
-
- BROWNS
- FS.30045 T:XF-10
- FS.20061 T:XF-09?
- FS.30075 T:XF-09
- FS.30099 P:PCA831
- FS.30108 Red-brown T:XF-64
- FS.10111 T:X-09
- FS.30117 Earth Red P:500103 Hu:186 T/MM:1701
- FS.30118 Earth P:PCA830 X:X101 Hu:142 P:60? T/MM:1702 T:XF-52?
- FS.30140 Brown Special P:500829 Earth Red
- FS.30166 Brick Red Hu:70 P:21
- FS.30218 Tan
- FS.30219 Tan Vietnam P:PCA816/874? X:X102 T:XF-52 Hu:119 GS:H310 T/MM:1742
- FS.30251 P:PCA820
- FS.30257 P:PCA828 T:XF-59
- FS.30266 Middlestone P:PCA818 T:XF-60
- FS.30277 Sand P:PCA827 T:XF:49 Hu:187
- FS.30279 P:PCA826 Hu:250 GS:346? X:X032
- FS.30372 P:PCI879
- FS.20400 Tan Special X:X145
- FS.20450 Light Tan T:XF-57?
- REDS
- FS.11105 Red T:X-07
- FS.11136 Insignia Red X:X102
- FS.31136 Matt Scarlet Hu:60(/153) GS:H327 P:20? T:XF-7 T/MM:1705
- FS.11630 Pink T:X-17
- ORANGES
- FS.12160 T:X-06
- FS.12197 Inter. Orange X:X103
- FS.32473 Hu:82?
- FS.32648 T:XF-15
- YELLOWS
- FS.33440 T:XF:49?
- FS.33446 Sand X:X158 P:500844 (possible confusion 446/448)
- FS.33448 Sand X:X326 T:XF-60
- FS.33481 Yellow green T:XF-04?
- FS.33531 Light Brown Yellow P:PCI875 Yellow GS:H313 Hu:121 T/MM:1706
- FS.13538 Crome Yellow Hu:188 GS:H329
- FS.33531 Matt Pale Stone P:PCI875 Hu:121 T:XF-57 Israeli AF X:X105
- FS.33538 Insignia Yellow Hu:154/Hu:24? GS:329 X:X106 T/MM:1708
- FS.33613 Radome Tan Hu:148 GS:H318 X:X107 T/MM:1709
- FS.13655 Blue Angels Yellow X:X108 T:X-08/XF-03
- FS.33711 USMC Sand white + FS.33613
- FS.33814 Pale Yellow? Hu:81? T:XF-4?
- GREENS
- FS.14031 US helo drab X:X152
- FS.x4050 T:XF-13?
- FS.14052 Marine Corps Green T:XF-13 X:X109
- FS.34058 Sea Blue T:XF-17
- FS.14062 T:X-05
- FS.34077 T:XF-11
- FS.34079 Forest Green P:PCA814/835 X:X110 Hu:116 GS:H309 T:XF-27/61? T/MM:1710
- FS.34082 T:XF-61?
- FS.34086 Dark green GS:H319? Hu:HF 1 T:XF-62/13? X:X144
- FS.34087 Olive Drab X:X111 Hu:155 GS:H304 T:XF-62? P:832/808/819 T/MM:1711
- FS.34088 Khaki Drab T:XF-51?
- FS.14091 Dark green X:X155
- FS.34092 Gunship Dk.Gr. X:X114 PCG862 Hu:149 GS:H302 T:XF-27*2+22*1 T/MM:1764
- FS.34096 T:XF-61
-
- FS.34097 Field (Marine) Green X:X115 Hu:105 GS:H340 P:PF53 T:XF-58
- FS.34098 Brownish green Hu:HJ 3
- FS.34102 Gunship Lt.Gr.X:X116 P:500815 Hu:117 GS:H303 T:XF-61*2+65*1 T/MM:1713
- FS.34127 Forest Green Hu:150
- FS.34128 Deep Green T:XF-26
- FS.34138 Light Green P:PF51 Hu:HF 2
- FS.34151 InteriorGreen X:X117 Hu:151 GS:H58 P:PCA821/833 Hu:HD 5/HG14 T/MM:1715
- FS.14159 SACblue/green X:X118 T:XF-65
- FS.14187 Willow green X:X151
- FS.14201 SAC tan/brown X:X119 T:XF-49?
- FS.34226 US Armour Olive Drab P:PCA801 Hu:78 Cockpit Green
- FS.34227 Light Green Hu:120 GS:H312 P:PCI876 Israeli X:X148 T/MM:1716
- FS.34230 Flat Green T:XF-05
- FS.24233 Greenish Gray 3:2:1 P:500876/500074/500032 (MiG-29)
- FS.34258 Cockpit Green X:X120 Hu:78
- FS.34259 T:XF-04
- FS.x4417 T:XF-14
- FS.34424 Medium Grey Hu:90 T:XF-20 (matt) Israeli
- FS.34554 Beige Green Hu:90 T:XF-21 Sky
- BLUES
- FS.15042 Sea blue X:X121 Hu:181 Dark Sea Blue gloss T/MM:1717
- FS.35042 Flat sea blue Hu:182 T/MM:1718 P:PCA803
- FS.15044 Insignia blue X:X122 Hu:189 GS:H326 T/MM:1719
- FS.35045 Dark blue P:PCI878 Hu:HD 3 GS:H35
- FS.15050 Blue Angels blue X:X123 Hu:190 GS:H328 T/MM:1772 T:X-03
- FS.15056 T:X-04
- FS.35109 Blue X:X124
- FS.35164 Intermediate Blue X:X125 Hu:144 GS:H42 T/MM:1720 P:PCA804
- FS.35177 Medium blue T:XF-18
- FS.15183 Bright blue X:X146 T:XF-08
- FS.15200 T:X-14
-
- FS.35237 Dk blue/grey X:X126 Hu:145 GS:H337 P:PCA817 T/MM:1721
- FS.35258 (Hu:HU17 Green deleted)
- Fs.35414 Blue X:X127 T:XF-23
- FS.35450 Air Superiority Blue P:PCA800
- FS.25526 Aircraft Blue T:XF-23 Hu:65 GS:H67
- FS.35526 Light blue X:X606 GS:H323
- FS.35622 Israeli Light Blue P:PCI877 Hu:122 GS:H314 X:X149
- GRAYS
- FS.16076 Engine grey X:X128 T:XF-63
- FS.36081 Gunship Dk. grey X:X129 P:500014 GS:H301 Hu:32 T:XF-63?
- FS.36118 Gunship Lt. Gray X:X130 T:XF-24 P:500822 GS:H305 Hu:125 T/MM:1723
- FS.36152 Blue-grey Hu:HN 2
- FS.36165 RLM 02 T:XF-22
- FS.36173 Dark Grey Hu:156 GS:H82 T:XF-53 P:PCA823
- FS.16176 Dk grey F-15 X:X157
- FS.36231 Dk Gull Grey T:XF-54 P:PCA824 Hu:140 GS:H57 X:X131 T/MM:1740
- FS.36251 Medium grey X:X132
- FS.16270 Neutral grey X:X133 T:XF-53
- FS.36270 RAF OceanGray Hu:USN2 GS:H306 Hu:126 T:XF-20
- FS.36307 Grey X:X134 Hu:141 Light Sea Grey GS:H324
- FS.36314 Flint grey X:X143 T:XF-25
- FS.36320 Dark compass grey X:X135 P:PCA837 GS:H307 Hu:128 T/MM:1741
- FS.36329 Light sea grey T:XF-66
- FS.36373 Hu:87 Steel grey? T:XF-25?
- FS.36375 Light compass grey X:X136 Hu:127 GS:H308 P:500836 T/MM:1728
- FS.36424 Medium grey T:XF-20
- FS.16440 Lt Gull Gray Hu:183 GS:H51? X:X137 (MiG-29) T/MM:1729
- FS.36440 Hu:129 GS:H325/H315 P:PCA825 T/MM:1730 T:XF-20
- FS.36463 Hu:146?
- FS.16473 ADC Grey X:X138 Light Aircraft Gray Hu:146 GS:H61 T:XF-66?
- FS.36473 Hu:64 Light grey? P:PCA806? T:XF-12?/XF-19 T/MM:1731
- FS.16492 Light grey X:X147
- FS.36495 Hu:147 Light Grey GS:H338
- FS.x6496 T:XF-12
- FS.16515 Canadian Voodoo grey X:X150
- FS.36521 T:XF-55
- FS.36559 Hu:162 Surface grey
- FS.36622 Light Gray P:PCA817 T:XF-19 GS:H311 Hu:97 X:X140
- MISCELLANEOUS (BLACKS, WHITES, METALLICS)
- FS.17038 Gloss Black Hu:21 GS:H2 T:X-1 T/MM:1747
- FS.27038 Coal Black Hu:85 GS:H2 T:X-18
- FS.37038 Black Hu:33 GS:H12/343 P:10 T:XF-1 T/MM:1749
- FS.27040 very slighty dark bluish black Hu:85? T:X-18?
- FS.17100 Purple T:X-16
- FS.17178 Chrome Silver Hu:191 X:X142 T/MM:1790 T:XF-16
- FS.17875 Gloss White Hu:22 GS:H1 T:X-2 X:X141 T/MM:1745
- FS.37875 Satin White Hu:130 GS:H11 P:11? XF-2 T/MM:1768
- FLUOROSCENT
- FS.28915 Hu:192 Blaze (orangeish red, almost dayglo) T/MM:1775
- ================================================================
- Finland, modern
- Draken: Same as the Swedish ones
- MiG-21
- Lt. Grey FS.36375 GS:H332 T:XF-53?
- Olive Green FS.34277 GS:H312 T:XF-26?
- Greenish black FS.24064 GS:H330*4+H304*1 T:XF-61*1+01*1?
- Hawk BS 381C
- Lt. Grey 627 FS.x6440 T:XF-20
- Green 222 FS.x4151 P:821? GS:H58? T:XF-58?
- Greenish black 437 FS.x4064 T:XF-61*1+01*1?
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- Germany, 1935-1945, RLM (Note: Many colours appear with different names)
- 02 Grau FS.36165 P:PCG83 GS:H70 Hu:92 T:XF-22 X:X201
- 21 Weiss FS.37886 (markings) / winter camouflage
- 27 Gelb FS.33637 (FoF markings) not bright, a hint of green
- 61 Dunkelbraun FS.30040 X:X219 T:X-09+black
- 62 Grun FS.34128/34159 X:X220 P:PCG706 T:XF-65
- 63 Hellgrau FS.36373 P:PCG711 T:XF-25 X:X221
- 65 Hellblau FS.35414(25526) P:PCG701 T:XF-23 Hu:65 GS:H67 X:X202
- 66 Schwartzgrau FS.36081 X:X203 some interiours
- 70 Schwartzgrun FS.34050(34052) P:PCG86 T:XF-13 X:X204 Hu:91 GS:H65
- 71 Dunkelgrun FS.34079(34102) P:PCG87 T:XF-61 Hu:30 GS:H64 X:X205
- 72 Grun FS.34056 X:X222
- 73 Grun FS.34092 X:X223
- 74 Graugrun FS.34086?(36081)P:PCG84 T:XF-63+65? GS:H68 X:X206 (Dunkelgrau)
- 75 Grauviolett FS.36122?(36132)P:PCG707 T:XF-54+51? GS:H69 X:X207 (Mittelgrau)
- 76 Lichtblau FS.36473(35622-35414?) P:PCG88 T:XF-66? X:X208 (Weissblau)
- 78 Himmelblau FS.35352 X:X214 P:PCG85?
- 79 Sandgelb FS.33434 X:X209 P:PCG708
- 79a Sandbraun FS.30215 GS:H66 Hu:62 X:X224
- 80 Olivegrun FS.34052 X:X215 P:PCG709 T:XF-58?
- 81 Braunviolett (FS.24087) X:X210 T:XF-62?/13? Weathered very fast
- 82 Dunkel?grun (FS.34096) X:X211 T:XF-27?/61? Note: Perhaps light
- 83 Licht?grun (FS.34138) X:X212 P:PF51 T:XF-58?/26? Note: Perhaps dark
- 84 Graublau FS.34432?/34554?/35622?
- Examples:
- Very early: 61/62/63. Bombers: 70/71/65. Desert: 79/80/78. Seaplanes:
- 72 and/or 73/65. Nightfighters: 75/76. Fighters: 1939-1941 70/71(/02)/65;
- 1941-1944 74/75(/02)/76; 1944-1945 81/82/(83/)76(or 84), also permitted:
- 82/70 or 81/71.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
- Israel, modern
- Brown FS.30219 P:PCI816/874? X:X102 T:XF-52 Hu:119 GS:H310 (not 30227!)
- Tan FS.33531 P:PCI875 Hu:121 X:X105 GS:H313 Hu:121 T:XF-57+white?
- Pale green FS.34227 P:PCI876 Hu:120 GS:H312 X:X148 (or 34277??)
- Light Blue FS.35622 P:PCI877 Hu:122 GS:H314 X:X149 T:XF-23+white?
- Dark Blue FS.35045 P:PCI878 T:X-03?
- Earth FS.30372 P:PCI879 T:XF-55?
- Grey FS.36375 X:X136 Hu:127 T:XF-53? GS:H308 P:500836 (not 36622!)
- Green FS.34424 T:XF-21 Hu:90
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- Japan, -1945
- Navy Green FS.34077?/34092 T:XF-11 P:PCJ92 X:X353 GS:H59 (N1?)
- Navy Grey FS.36496 T:XF-12 X:X354 P:PCJ90? GS:H61 Hu:146? (N2?)
- Army Grey FS.35414/36595? T:XF-14 X:X352 P:PCJ90? GS:H62 (A2?)
- Army Green FS.34088? T:XF-13/51? P:PCJ91 X:X351 GS:H60 (A3?)
- Army/Navy Brown (reddish) T:XF-64? P:PCJ93 (A/N14?)
- Interior metallic blue X:X355 T:X-13 GS:H63
- Army Silver T:XF-16 Hu:11 (A6?)
-
- Navy Mauve P:PCJ89 Violet (N9?)
- Navy Brown (wood brown) T:XF-10 Hu:110 GS:H37 (N17?)
- Army/Navy Lt. Olive (greyish) P:PCJ94 T:XF-22? (A/N21?)
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- Sweden
- ca.1940:s - 60:s
- Most combat aircraft:
- Blue-grey FS.36329/36250 T:XF-66
- Olive Green FS.34096/34079 T:XF-61
- Trainer colours:
- Orange FS.12243(12273) Sk 12; Sk 15; Sk 25
- Black Green FS.34052 T:XF-13+63 Sk 12 Fw 44; Sk 15 Kl 35
- Dark Green FS.34096 T:XF-27/61? Sk 25 Bu 181
- Yellow, FS.33655 T:X-08 Sk 16 Harvard; Sk 50 Safir
- J 11 Fiat CR.42, B 16 Caproni 313, J 20 Reggiane 2000 were delivered to
- Italian standard, later repainted. J 11 and J 20 had green mottle on pale sand,
- also used on J 9 Seversky EP-1, B 16 green and red-brown mottle on pale sand.
- Tan FS.33613?/30277? T:XF-57*3+59*1
- Green FS.34258?/34083? T:XF-58?
- Red-brown FS.30166?(30219) T:XF-64
- Blue grey FS.26251?(26250) T:XF-53
- Some J 29 Tunnan in Congo:
- Brown / Green FS.33105 / FS.34088
-
- J 30 Mosquito, J 33 Venom (to British night fighter standard?)
- Medium Sea Grey FS.36251/25237 T:XF-25?/53?
- Green FS.34096/34094 T:XF-58?/61?
- S 31 Spitfire,
- PRU Blue FS.15193
- J 34 Hunter (maybe to British standard)
- Green FS.34083??
-
- Modern:
- J 35A-F Draken, Sk 60 Saab 105, Sk 61 Bulldog, some Sk 50 Safir
- (a very few Lansen and Tunnan)
- Lt.Blue-grey 058M FS.36314/36329? T:XF-66?(53) Hu:115 P:PCF82 Pr:M210
- Dk.Dark blue 438M FS.35042/35045 Hu:HJ1 GS:H35 T:XF-17+03? Hu:182
- Dk.Khaki-olive 325M FS.34086?/34052?(34087) Hu:HF1 GS:H304 T:XF-13/62?
- AJS 37 Viggen, Sk 61 Bulldog, helicopters, army vehicles
- Blue-grey 058M FS.36314/x6329? Hu:SW5/115? T:XF-66?(53) Pr:M210
- Black 093M FS.34031/34050 Hu:SW3/91 T:XF-01*2+27*1 GS:H65?
- Dark Green 326M FS.34092/34128 Hu:SW2/149 T:XF-26/58? GS:H302 Pr:M213
- Mid Green 322M ANA611/FS.34138/x4187 Hu:SW1/158 P:821? GS:H58? Pr:M212
- Tan 507M FS.30117/30219 Hu:SW4/118/119? T:XF-52 P:PCA816 Pr:M214
- JA 37 Viggen; J 35J Draken
- Light grey (overside) FS.(x6329?/36473?) T:XF-25*1+66*1?
- Lighter grey (unders.) FS.(x6440?/26493?) T:XF-19?
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- United Kingdom
- 1939-45
- Dark Earth FS.30118? T:XF-52 P:PCE76 GS:H72 Hu:29 X:X2
- Dark Green FS.34079(34096/34064) T:XF-61 P:PCE75 X:X110 Hu:30/116 GS:H73?/309
- Sky (Type S is smooth) FS.34504 T:XF-21 P:PCE72 GS:H74? Hu:23/09?
- Extra Dark Sea Grey FS.36118(36099?) T:XF-63?/24 P:822 X:X130 GS:H305 Hu:125
- Dark Sea Grey FS.36173(36099?) T:XF-24?/54 GS:H75?
- Ocean Grey FS.36152?(36176?/36187?) T:XF-54 Hu:165 GS:H335 X:X6
- Medium Sea Grey FS.36270/36440? T:XF-53 GS:H335/306 X:X3
- Mid Stone FS.30266 T:XF-60 P:PCE73/PCA818? X:X9 GS:H71 Hu:84
- Azure FS.35231 (more white) P:PCE74 T:XF-18+X-14? X:X26
- Dark Mediterranean blue FS.35050/35109? T:X-03 GS:H328 X:X123/124?
- Extra Dark Sea Green FS.34092 T:XF-27 P:PCG862 Hu:149(/30) GS:H302 X:X114
- Dark Slate Grey FS.34096 T:XF-11+63? X:X25
- PRU Mauve Used on what?
- PRU Pink (low alt. when overcast)
- PRU Blue (high alt.) FS.35190?/35189 (more black) X:X008
- Sky Blue FS.35611 (more /34079?, if so:white)
- Light Earth FS.30257 T:XF-59 P:PCA828 overside lower wings biplanes
- Light Green (pale greyish) FS.34172 T:XF-22? o-side, l. wings, biplanes
- Light Slate Grey (greenish) FS.34159 T:XF-65 X:X118 o-side, l. wings, biplanes
- Examples:
- Day fighters: Dk Green/Dk Earth/Sky(or Black); 1941- Dk Green/Ocean Grey/
- Sea Grey Medium; Desert: Middlestone/Dk Earth/Azure
- Night fighters: Dk Green/Sea Grey Medium/(Smooth Black)Sea Grey Medium
- Bombers: Dk Green/Dk Earth/Matt Black; Middlestone/Dk Earth/Azure(Black/Sky)
-
- 1945-
- BS 381C
- 105 Oxford blue FS.15050 X:X23 T:X-03? Helicopters, VIP aircraft
- 106 Royal blue FS.15044
- 210 Sky FS.x4424 P:PCE71 T:XF-21 X:X7 GS:H74 Hu:90
- 220 Army helicopter olive X:X27
- 283 Aircraft grey/green X:X10
- 285 NATO green X:X18
- 298 RN helicopter olive drab FS.x4098 X:X28
- 356 RN helo Rescue yellow FS.x3538 X:X19
- 361 Light stone FS.x3448 X:X29 T:XF-60?
- 450 Dark Earth FS.x0118 P:PCE76 T:XF-52 GS:H72 Hu:29 X:X2
- 537 Red Arrows red FS.11350 X:X14
- 627 RAF Light Aircraft Grey FS.x6440 Hu:166 T:XF-20 GS:H332 X:X15 P:PCA825
- 633 Blue/grey FS.16044 X:X13
- 636 PRU Blue X:X8
- 637 Medium Sea Grey FS.x6270 T:XF-53 Hu:165 GS:H335 X:X3
- 638 Dk Sea Grey, -1975 (semigloss) FS.x6173 T:XF-24?/54 Hu:164 GS:H331 X:X4
- 638 Dk Sea Grey, 1975- (matt) FS.x6173 T:XF-24?/54 Hu:164 GS:H331 X:X4
- 640 Extra Dk Sea Grey FS.36118 T:XF-63?/24 GS:H333 X:X5 Hu:123
- 641 RAF Dk Green, -1975 (semi-gloss bluish) Hu:163? GS:H330? X:X1?
- 641 RAF Dk Green, 1975- (matt brownish) FS.34079 Hu:163? T:XF-27 GS:H330 X:X1?
- 642 Night black X:X12
- BS 2660:4-049 Hemp FS.30450?? (early variant?) T:XF-57?
- BS 4800:10-B-21 Hemp Hu:168 GS:H336 X:X16 T:XF-57?
- BS 4800:18-B-21 Barley Grey Hu:167 GS:H334 X:X17
- BS 4800:12-B-25 Lichen green X:X24
- BS 4800:2-B-53 Matt black
- Desert pink (1991-92) FS.30279 P:PCA826/810? Hu:250 GS:H346? X:X31
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
- USA 1939-1945
- ANA 603 Sea Grey (neutral) FS.36118 P:PCA809 T:XF-24 GS:H305 Hu:125 T/MM:1723
- ANA 606 Semi-Gloss Sea Blue FS.25042
- ANA 607 Non-Specular Sea Blue FS.35045 P:PCA803 X:X121 Hu:181 T:X-03 GS:H35
- ANA 608 Intermediate Blue FS.35164 P:PCA804 X:X125 Hu:144 GS:H42 T/MM:1720
- ANA 609 Azure Blue FS.35231 P:PCA813 T:X-14?
- ANA 611 Interior Green FS.24151 P:PCA802 T:XF-04?
- ANA 613 Olive Drab FS.X34087(the old) P:PCA808 T:XF-62?
- ANA 616 Sand (desert pink) FS.30279 P:PCA812/810 T:XF-59? Hu:250 GS:346
- ANA 621 Dark Gull Grey FS.36231 P:PCA807 T:XF-54 Hu:140 GS:H57 X:X131 T/MM:1740
- army olive drab FS.34087?(darker+more green) P:PCA801 T:XF-58?
- sea green (FS.x4058) P:PCA811 T:XF-17
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