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- From: stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark)
- Subject: Re: Determining the winner of a "friendly" inter-arts duel.
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.175613.8603@PA.dec.com>
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- Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
- Date: 16 NOV 92 12:39:59
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- > Also, do aikidoka agree with
- >Todd's assertion that the aikido methods of getting into grappling range are
- >so specifically oriented to aikido techniques that they would not be
- >particularly useful to, say, an Olympic wrestler who finds himself in a
- >fistfight? Precisely what technique do you think might be helpful?
-
- Since the restatement is sounding a little more extreme than I intended
- in my asstertion, let me just elaborate on my statement with an example.
-
- In Aikido, there is a movement adopted from one of the classical
- weapons schools that involves sidestepping a penetrating thrust and
- staying extremly close to the opponent. I think it's called
- hito_e_mi, or something like that, and is the heart of many of
- the Irimi-type movements. There are Aikijutsu/Aikido throws
- that make particularly fine use of this tactical positioning skill
- by breaking the opponent's posture on the way in. This advantage would
- somewhat be nullified if hito_e_mi was used to go into a clinch or
- tie-up.
-
- The reason why I asserted that the Aiki tactical positioning skills
- would be difficult to remove from their technical 'context' is that
- the 'gap closing method' is imbedded into the technique itself ! They don't
- (usually) teach it as a 'gap closing method' in most schools, as far
- as I know. If you could separate it out as a distinct skill, and
- incorporate it into a double leg dive (for example), it would become
- indistinguishable from a variation on the comparable wrestling penetration
- step.
-
- Such is the problem with picking bits and pieces of well-integrated
- martial arts.
-
- kind regards,
-
- todd
- >
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