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- From: callison@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: Weapon for defense from cows
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- Date: 23 Nov 92 14:24:44 GMT
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- In article <viking.722470302@vincent2.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
- #callison@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) writes:
- #
- ##Personally, I would suggest using the same thing ranchers do in tight
- ##quarters (like in the stock yards); either a bullwhip or the good,
- ##old-fashioned non-lethal cattle prod.
- #
- # I believe the cows he is talking about are not at all similar
- #to the domestic cows I raised as a youth with regard to temperament.
- #Those cattle prods were useful in persuading a cow to move up the
- #loading chute, but should she feel boxed in and need to escape the
- #prod was about as useful as teats on a bull. I think Rodney King
- #showed that electricity just don't stop an enraged person. But, as
- #range seems to be possible here, a taser or similar "long-range prod"
- #might be a viable alternative.
-
- I'm not talking about standing your ground and sticking the thing as it
- rushes you; I'm talking about using the cover of the trees and gently
- dissuading it from following you as it goes by. If a toreador can keep
- out of the way of an enraged bull with nothing but a cape and a sword,
- I think your average person could use a tree and a cattle prod to
- dissuade an attack. (That is, you hide behind the tree and zap the
- sucker as it goes by. I imagine that you'll be able to keep it up longer
- than the bull/cow will keep charging.)
-
- ##Besides being a potential legal hassle, it's also a little bit cruel
- ##to kill a cow just because you got in its way....or is that too PC
- ##for you? :-)
- #
- # That depends on what the cow does, IMHO. My brother spent three
- <Cow-butting anecdotes deleted>
- #forgave. I'm such a nice guy, eh? The legal hassle would involve your
- #neighbor, too, as it was his animal running loose that caused the
- #problem.
-
- Yeah. What I meant to say was that it was rather un-neighborly to
- shoot the guy's cow (unless there was a real danger). Of course,
- if it's a choice between eating expensive steaks or becoming a
- large stain on the nice, clean dirt, you'd have no choice other
- than to shoot.
-
- #There are braided whips, about 5' long, available at tack
- #shops. With a little practice, you can snap them quite well and this
- #is nearly as effective as the prod. The short length is less likely to
- #be tangled up in brush and trees. I recommend against trying to climb a
- #tree -- they move too darn fast for that, and if you're between a cow
- #and a tree guess who gets squished?
-
- I certainly wouldn't advise trying to climb the tree on the same side
- as the cow; it's much better to stay on the ground and use the tree as
- a shield, unless you can grab a low-hanging branch and swing yourself
- up fast. Since there wasn't a description of the trees, it's kinda
- hard to say what to do, or what to use.
-
- # Since the description of the cows and their behavior isn't known
- #exactly, and since experience is really the best teacher here, I'm
- #just tossing out ideas -- I'll let the poster, his wife, and his
- #neighbor decide what the best response is.
-
- Absolutely--talk to the neighbor first and foremost. Although you
- need to help maintain the fence (half of it's on your property if it
- runs down the property line, and your well-being is at stake), it's
- his responsibility to keep his livestock on his property--and he can't
- do that unless he knows they're getting out (it also wasn't mentioned
- how big the neighbor's spread was--in riding the fence, he may not get
- around to where they're getting out very often).
-
- # [MODERATOR: I keep having this vision of the Far Side cows reading
- # our discussion in the morning paper over coffee, and one remarking
- # to the other "Why Martha, these people are just so unCIVilized!"]
-
- Yes, it's rather moo-ving, isn't it? :-P
-
- James
-
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