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- From: adam@irvine.com (Adam Beneschan)
- Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
- Subject: Re: Which inference is better, WAS - "finesse or play for the drop"
- Message-ID: <By11xy.GE6@irvine.com>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 18:27:33 GMT
- References: <1992Nov16.131237.19210@ms.uky.edu> <lsimonse.722011812@vipunen.hut.fi> <BxwHCq.55K@irvine.com> <1ee8ukINN8ij@agate.berkeley.edu>
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- In-Reply-To: grove@triangle.Berkeley.EDU's message of 18 Nov 92 20:27:00 GMT
-
- In article <1ee8ukINN8ij@agate.berkeley.edu> grove@triangle.Berkeley.EDU
- (Eddie Grove) writes:
-
- > In article <BxwHCq.55K@irvine.com> adam@irvine.com (Adam Beneschan) writes:
- >
- > >Your side has the exact same 26 cards on both hands, and so do the
- > >opponents. The distributional probabilities of the opponents' 26
- > >cards will be exactly the same in both cases; in no way does it
- >
- > This is wrong, of course. Unless you use a perfect random source for
- > your shuffles, the conditional distribution of the opponents' cards
- > will tend to depend upon your cards.
- >
- > If the cards are shuffled by hand, the distributions are definitely
- > related. A good pseudo-random generator will come close enough to
- > perfect you don't need to worry, but there are a lot of bad generators
- > out there. Does anyone know that the generator(s) used in ACBL events
- > are good?
-
- Didn't some researcher just determine recently that if you shuffle the
- cards 7 times (I think), that the result will be close to a perfect
- random shuffle? I remember reading something about this but I don't
- recall the details. Perhaps someone out there who's familiar with
- this study can enlighten me.
-
- Also, regarding ACBL's random number generator, I believe somebody
- either examined lots of tournament hands, or let their hand generator
- generate a huge number of hands, and they found that the
- distributional frequencies were virtually identical to that predicted
- by probability theory. So this is an empirical indication that their
- random number generator is good enough.
-
- -- Adam
-