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- From: varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel)
- Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
- Subject: Re: bidding question
- Date: 16 Nov 1992 14:02:12 -0600
- Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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- In article <9211161749.AA16512@calvin.irvine.com> adam@irvine.com (Adam Beneschan) writes:
-
- >> QJ2 KT73 W E
- >> AKJ5 T6 1D 1S
- >> A985 J 2N
- >> AT KQ9874
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-
-
- >What you're saying makes sense. I think 4C is definitely Gerber on
- >this auction, unless you have a specific agreement that Gerber applies
- >only over 1NT and 2NT openings or something like that.
-
- >By the way, in my partnerships, I could not bid 3C---that would be New
- >Minor Force showing 5 spades.
-
- While these two agreements seem widespread, I find both revolting.
- And how do you know opener doesn't have AQJ QJxx Axxx AJ? Even if
- 4C is Gerber you don't have the right hand for it. In fact, you
- hardly *ever* do, which is why it shouldn't be Gerber.
-
- This hand is also an excellent example of why 3C shouldn't be New
- Minor Forcing. With 5 spades you can simply bid 3S. With 6 you
- can bid 4S, or with a stronger hand, 3S and then 4S. With 5 spades
- and 4 hearts you can bid 3H. New Minor Forcing is not needed for
- a choice of games. (Something of the sort *can* be useful to show
- slam-try values below game, but that's a different matter.)
-
- You can simply bid 3C with this hand, whether it's Wolff Signoff or
- not, and bid 4C over partner's next bid. In systems where you are
- known to respond 1S in preference to 2C with less than game-going
- values that can only show a hand like this one. Then if partner can
- cuebid hearts you can try Blackwood.
-
- I'm confused. If 3C here is NMF and 4C is Blackwood, how *do* you
- express an unbalanced hand with long clubs? By bidding 3NT and
- playing it there, or using Gerber as your only slam try?
-
- -- Don Varvel (varvel@cs.utexas.edu)
-