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- From: hall@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Michael Hall)
- Subject: Re: SD rules (was Re: AMEX Trop Deal)
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:06:06 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov14.171740.26690@midway.uchicago.edu> kolt@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >In article <eric.106.0@hup.ucla.edu> eric@hup.ucla.edu (Eric J. Splaver) writes: [munch]
- >> Excalibullshit is
- >>also acceptable but watch the table rules closely, I played for about
- >>fifteen minutes before I realized it was DD on 9, 10, 11 only.
- >Don't knock it! I;'m convinced that this is the best SD game available. It
- >moves faster than CC, it's just as easy to get meal comps (and I'd much rather
- >have lunch there than in the Circus trough, they tolerate bigger bets before
- >calling them out. And there's no picket line to cross, or evil pit critters
- >like at the frontier.
-
- I was going to post a while ago to say this is the *worst* blackjack game
- in all of Vegas. Worse than the 50% penetration double deckers at Palace
- Station. Worse probably even than Vegas World, though I've never played
- there. The dealers on the single deck tables at Excalibur preferentially
- shuffle 1-2 rounds to 6-7 spots. I experienced shuffle-ups after the
- first round of 6 spots from two different dealers in two different pits
- when I merely parlayed a win (to double my bet) from the first round,
- and they also shuffled up after the first round of 7 spots several times
- in the space of a few minutes. The count was positive whenever this
- happened, and I have absolutely no doubt that the dealers noticed the
- low cards and shuffled to protect the house. Bets were *not* jumped
- when these shuffles occurred, so that was not the problem. The game
- is unbeatable. They might as well cheat by taking some 10's out of the
- deck. When a dealer shuffles after the first round of 6 spots in a
- positive count, inform the other players at the table that the dealer
- is cheating by shuffling prematurely whenever the house edge drops,
- and then leave.
-
- Anyone else have an opinion on whether Excalibur single deck is the best
- or worst game in Vegas? I have a sneaky suspicion it depends on what size
- action you give them...
-
- While I'm ragging on the Circus Circus empire, let me note that I've
- also run into blatent preferential shuffling at Circus Circus in Vegas,
- like one dealer who did 5 rounds of 3 in a negative count, and then
- 1 round of 3 for a positive count. Or a dealer who dealt 1 round
- of 7 to me in a positive count, then 2 rounds of 7 in a negative count,
- then 1 round in a positive count, while assuring me that he always
- deals 2 rounds to a full table. This is criminal. It doesn't matter
- that the IQ of the average Circus patron is too low to detect that
- anything strange is going on. Also, a dealer at one casino said
- that when she was working at Circus Circus Reno she saw a dealer dealing
- seconds for the benefit of the house. And I have a friend who saw a dealer
- dealing seconds there too. That's a felony.
-
- The Circus Circus empire cheats its patrons, pure and simple.
-
- You know, I always wondered how the hell they could build Excalibur and
- then this new pyramid thingy, off the profits from $1 players at Circus
- Circus...
-
- --
- Michael Hall \When you're down on your luck counting cards, just
- NASA Ames Research Center\repeat this (CMU football) chant: "That's all right.
- hall@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov \That's okay. They're going to work for us some day!"
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