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- From: bhilden@bigriver.Eng.Sun.COM (Bruce Hildenbrand)
- Newsgroups: rec.climbing
- Subject: Re: learning to lead
- Date: 17 Nov 1992 01:50:34 GMT
- Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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- In article <168A17A5C.WILLS@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> WILLS@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Cheyenne Wills) writes:
- >
- >I often wonder if climbs like X-M, Jules Verne, Crystal Clear, etc.
- >would be put up in the same style that they had been if they where
- >to be put up today.
-
- Not very likely and I will give you one good example.
-
- While I was away in Europe in 1988, Bob Candelaria decided to add
- a bolt to the unprotected 5.10c crux of the second pitch of X-M.
- For those of you unfamiliar with this classic Eldorado Canyon testpiece,
- it was first led free in 1967 by Larry Dalke, most likely Kronhoffers,
- a shoe that has about 1/1,000,000 the friction properties of today's
- climbing shoes. If you fall off the crux of this climb, you will drop about
- 10-15 feet and swing into a huge chopper flake. Suffice it to say that
- you would most likely get hurt real bad.
-
- Anyway, the climb had been led in "gut check" fashion(i.e. no pro) for
- over 20 years before Bob added a bolt so that he could combine pitch 1
- with pitch 2 for "convenience".
-
- Those of us who had led the climb in its original state were outraged,
- those that led the climb with the bolt(which lasted for about 3 weeks,
- about the time I was in Europe!!!!) didn't seem to think the crux was
- all that bad and wondered what all the fuss was about. It sure suprised
- me that people showed litle respect for the exploits of our forefathers,
- but hey, climbing is a very competitive sport and as such it's ethics
- decline as we search for those big numbers.
-
- Bruce
-
- ps - Candelaria also added a bolt to the scary start of Rosy Crucifiction,
- I guess nobody told him about the #1 TCU you could get in to protect
- those moves.
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