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- From: psilsbee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Peter Silsbee)
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- Subject: Re: Abbey bashing. Was: Trip rpt: SE Utah 4wd vacation, part 3/4
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- Date: 23 Nov 92 22:13:48 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.140235.29055@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> mpb@troy.cc.bellcore.com (bunz,marcus p) writes:
- >I don't
- >think that limiting people to one or even two children would be good
- >in the US. If I'm not mistaken, the population of the US has been
- >flat or declining slightly, if you exclude emigrants.
-
- Hallelujah!! At least we're doing SOMETHING right!
-
- >I agree with
- >your proposal to educate people, and efforts should be made to provide
- >effective birth control especially in areas that are not capable of
- >supporting the population load, either directly through farming/fishing,
- >or indirectly through distribution channels.
-
- Well, it could be argued that, since you're willing to use distribution
- channels, this pretty much includes the entire planet. Certainly some
- distribution channels are more economical than others; the US could
- support its own population for some time to come, through
- "farming/fishing"... does this mean that we can have more kids if we
- refuse to export food? All I'm trying to say here, and not very well
- at that, is that let's "provide"
- that birth control EVERYWHERE. Living in a wealthy society doesn't give
- us the right to overpopulate. I'd argue the opposite, in fact, since we
- (as a society) already consume disproportionately.
-
- ...stuff deleted that I have no answer for...
-
- > However,
- >you have managed to find a way to have your cake (not invest in the
- >future of the contry either financially,
- >or through giving your time in raising
- >children), and eat it to (everyone elses children will be working to
- >provide for you, assuming SS entitlements don't completely go away).
- >
-
- Now, I know that this wasn't directed at me, but jeez... all the guy said
- was that he was going to retire to the woods, you seem to be assuming
- a lot here.
-
- Also, maybe I'm reading too much into what you wrote, but I get annoyed when
- I perceive the attitude that somehow, those who have children are by
- definition investing more in the future of the country.
-
- YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO HAVE KIDS IN ORDER TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN.
-
- "Have fewer kids, like I did."
-
- --Peter
-
-