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- From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
- Subject: Re: Multiplying in the Backcountry (kids/population)
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:57:06 GMT
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- In article <10797@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> hall@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Hal F Lillywhite) writes:
- >In article <Nov18.214814.69046@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
- >
- >>The world population has been growing monotonically since day one of
- >>human history. How is this a short term question? I think we are
- >>over-analyzing.
- >
- >Wayne, your zeal is commendable but I'm afraid in this case it is
- >not matched by your knowledge. Your statement above is quite wrong.
- >World population has not grown monotonically but has fluctuated up
- >and down (albiet with a generally upward trend). Visit a library
- >and read the "Population" article in Britannica's _Macropedea_.
- >Among other things you will find there a graph of world population
- >over about the last 8000 years. It oscillates about a slowly
- >increasing trend until the advent of the plague when it takes a
- >sharp downturn. Thereafter it takes an even sharper upturn with
- >the industrial revolution.
- >
- >Of more value in terms of long term population growth, you will find
- >another graph showing birth and death rates for developed and
- >undeveloped countries. The area between the birth and death lines
- >represents population growth. Undeveloped countries continue to
- >have large positive growth rates. However in the developed
- >countries the birth rate is dropping rapidly. The 1985 date of this
- >publication still shows a positive growth for developed countries
- >but a simple extrapolation shows what our 1990 census already told
- >us: Death rate now exceeds birth rate, at least in the U.S. (and I
- >suspect in Western Europe as well).
- >
- >>The point I'm trying to make is that it is our problem no matter who's
- >>fault it is. It's a lot easier to worry about recycling aluminum cans,
- >>and stay oblivious to the fact that a billion more people will be added
- >>to the population in the next 10 years.
- >
- >Right. And it's easier to pontificate about how everyone should
- >have fewer children than to examine the available data to determine
- >how to motivate them to do so. Obviously something in developed
- >countries leads to a lower birth rate and that something is missing
- >in undeveloped countries. We've said it before here, to lower the
- >birth rate:
- >
- >1. Provide convenient means of contraception, and
- >
- >2. Assure a good chance of survival for children which are born, or
- >provide other means for parents to be supported in there old age so
- >they won't have to have a lot of children to support them.
- >
- >If you want to reduce the birth rate, forget the preaching and worry
- >about economics.
-
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- -Wayne Trzyna
- trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
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