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- From: u894793@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (T. Little)
- Subject: Re: Weapons systems?
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- Keywords: high-G space weapons
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- Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
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- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:29:48 GMT
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- pksuk@mothra.syr.EDU (Peter K. Suk) writes:
-
- >True, we're all pretty solidly limited by c and E=mc^2. I was wondering
- >if there were any _tighter_ upper bounds. If you stipulate that your
- >warship's drive systems be made from solid state matter, then you start
- >to get some interesting dynamics.
-
- >A limit on the energy gradient of an accelerator interests me because
- >it would bound the capability of ships of a given size. We could say
- >that a ship of length L would have thus and such max delta-V / mass
- >efficiency. For one thing, this would necessitate different roles
- >for craft of different sizes. If we make other assumptions about
- >materials technology: for example -- that we will never make something
- >with more tensile strength than a molecular bond -- then we get another
- >limit on the rate of turn for craft of length L.
-
- >From that, we can get relationships for offensive capability versus
- >manuverability versus range. A ship that capable of a certain acceleration
- >has a certain safe distance from which it cannot be hit _at all_, due to
- >the fact that information doesn't propagate faster than light. Given
- >enough distance and accelerating ability, the ship can make sure that
- >you will never know where it is precisely enough to hit.
-
- Err, this would require some *awesome* accelerations for practical
- distances - if you have 100G accelation for a 10m craft, you need to be
- at least 30 000 km away.
-
- >If we place speed limits on our weapons much lower than light, then
-
- ... you need a good reason. I can think of quite a few long-range
- NAFAL weapons that are fairly efficient, so there must be some reason
- why they won't work.
-
- >interesting interactions take place. Minimum safe distances and the
- >accelerations required to effect them start to get down to levels where
- >they can play a role in space combat.
-
- Yes, NAFAL weapons make the 'safe' distance (due to light delay) rather
- extreme.
-
- >Right now, I'm stuck. I can get limits for electric field gradients.
- >(From _Sci Am_, Amateur Scientist, Apr 1989: 10ev per 10E-8 cm.
-
- Why this value? It sounds about right for molecular disruption, but in
- vacuum, this won't apply. At *very high* gradients, you get production of
- electron-positron pairs. (This doesn't actually preclude its use - you
- could use the beam thus produced as propulsion or weapon). The fields could
- be produced by focussed high-intensity radiation ... I think.
-
- (This depends upon what exactly you mean by 'solid state' drives. Do you
- allow ion drives, for example? What about chemical rockets? Lasers?)
-
- >A hilarious article, if you haven't read it.) However, B-fields look
-
- I'll try to find the article.
-
- >to be harder. You can make the B-field in a solenoid arbitrarily
- >strong by adding more turns / length. But eventually your wires get
- >so thin that your current has to drop off. (Remember we're dealing
- >with solid state matter.) So there seems to be a limit in there
- >somewhere. Can any one lend a hand?
-
- B-fields are also able to be generated by radiation - I don't know of any
- theoretical upper limit, but given the close relationship between B and E
- fields, I expect that an limit on E should imply some limit on B.
- (As an 'out-of-the-blue' guess, I'd say B = E/c)
-
- >Until your _craft_ becomes relativistic, momentum is momentum is
- >momentum. (And even when it does, it still might be -- I don't
- >know.) The photons hitting the vanes of a radiometer are
- >'relativistic' but the thing will behave the same way in a light
- >breeze (discounting air resistance, of course.) ]
-
- True. I just didn't consider that such a high exhaust velocity would be
- useful except when the craft itself is expected to approach 'c'.
- I see now that it could be required to make frequent velocity changes of
- smaller magnitude.
- --
- T. Little a.k.a. u894793@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au
-