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- From: nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev)
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
- Subject: Re: Mr. Nikolayev
- Message-ID: <NIKOLAY.92Nov18140418@husc10.harvard.edu>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 22:04:18 GMT
- Article-I.D.: husc10.NIKOLAY.92Nov18140418
- References: <4660@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us>
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- In-reply-to: jjwebb@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us's message of Tue, 17 Nov 92 02:31:36 PST
-
- jjwebb@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
-
- JJW
- > After asking Philip Nikolayev to demonstrate that he could do more
- > than foam at the mouth, nikolay@husc.harvard.edu writes:
-
- PN
- >> Sir or Madam,
- >> I might indeed post and discuss a favourite poem, if asked, in a
- >> nicer tone of voice,
-
- JJW
- > So tone is important to you ... it's important to me as well ...
-
- No, your tone isn't important to me in the least; I'm simply
- explaining to you why I am not going to honour your request.
-
- JJW
- > I'll wager it's important to most everyone that reads this group.
- > You MIGHT respond favorably to a nicer tone ... that seems right. I
- > suppose someone with sociopathic tendencies might not be able to
- > extrapolate from this a useful rule for functioning within a
- > traditional society. What do you suppose?
-
- I suppose that only a very muddled thinker makes no distinction
- between traditional society and a forgettable little subculture.
-
- PN
- >> by someone who signed his or her full name under the message.
-
- JJW
- > JJ (pronounced JayJay) ain't enough syllables for you? Same number
- > as in Philip. I am hardly anonymous ... and it ain't a pen name.
- > Just the name dad gave me, probably because he didn't like the name
- > Philip as much as he liked the name JJ. In this society I am
- > jjwebb@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us, and that 'full name' is in the
- > header, on the 'From:' line, in every message I send.
-
- Ok, and what is your sex, if I may ask? The 'From:' lihe says
- nothing about that.
-
- PN
- >> Besides, given the context of your request,
-
- JJW
- > What context do you think you see? Is your angle of preception any
- > larger than the last few paragraphs? Is your horizon line against
- > your nose or out at basho's pond?
-
- It's none of your frigging business what context I think I see.
-
- PN
- >> I would expect you to present some credentials,
-
- JJW
- > Credentials? To be curious? Asked for by someone who claims the
- > goals of "full humanity" and "the good life" as his motivating
- > force? Hmm ... I assume my social security card number won't do.
- > Perhaps if you told me which identity card you're looking for I
- > might be able to find it in the darker recesses of my wallet.
-
- You may well get lost, for all I care.
-
- PN
- >> because I see no point in proving that I am not this week's rabid
- >> dog to someone who may well be, for all I know, the mangy rat of
- >> yesteryear.
-
- JJW
- > So who a person is and what they have done in the past, is an
- > important factor in determining your discourse with that individual.
-
- No, but it's absolutely essential to the fulfillment of your request.
-
- JJW
- > That seems right. Although, not completely right. I suppose someone
- > with sociopathic tendencies might not be able to extrapolate from
- > this a useful rule for functioning within a traditional society.
- > What do you suppose?
-
- I suppose you are repeating yourself, Sherlock. Look up 'society'
- and 'cesspool'. See the difference?
-
- > JJWebb
-
- I hope that you will get lost; but should it itch you to respond,
- please avoid selective editing.
-
- Philip Nikolayev
- nikolay@husc.harvard.edu
-