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- From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
- Subject: Re: why the hang-up on NC17?
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:56:10 GMT
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- In article <22900@venera.isi.edu> jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
- >Keep in mind also that the MPAA cannot trademark the "X" rating, but
- >that can (and have) trademarked the NC-17. Now all ratings are
- >trademarked, and cannot be used without their permission (which was
- >not true of the "X" rating -- hence XX XXX, etc.)
- >
- >There was a *strong* element of commerce in this redesignation.
-
- I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. The X rating was purposefully
- left uncopyrighted, on the theory that, since anyone could slap an X
- rating on their film, the remaining ratings looked less like censorship.
- The popularization of explicit sex films resulted in lots of them putting
- their own X (or XXX) rating on their films. Thus, there was no ratings
- distinction between films made solely to show explicit sex and other
- films that were suitable only for adults. This lead to the latter being
- splashed with tar meant for the former, in the form of limited numbers of
- theaters that would show them, few newspapers that would advertise them,
- etc.
-
- The only substantial difference between the NC-17 rating and the X rating
- is the copyright status. Anyone willing to pay the MPAA the fee and provide
- them with a print can still get their film rated, and will get a G, PG,
- PG-13, R, or NC-17. So the makers of "Debbie Does Dallas" could easily
- get this X movie rerated NC-17, if they wanted to pay the bucks. They
- don't want to pay (especially since the NC-17 rating has no commercial
- benefit to them), so they don't get their NC-17.
-
- In practice, the NC-17 rating is still viewed as box office poison, so
- films are still being edited down to get R ratings.
-
- If by "strong element of commerce" means that the MPAA was trying to
- use market forces (the fee for ratings) to separate the sheeps from
- the goats, that's certainly true. If you mean that it was done to help
- the studios make more money, that's not so clear.
-
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- Peter Reiher
- reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
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