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- From: mikep@sequent.com (Michael A. Prescott)
- Subject: Re: Homosexual marriage (was: The Difference Between Cs and Ls)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.194243.22874@sequent.com>
- Followup-To: or.politics,alt.rush-limbaugh
- Summary: Still not getting it!
- Keywords: marriage, homosexuals, rights.
- Sender: mikep@sequent.com
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- Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
- References: <1099@bug.UUCP> <1992Nov3.014838.2809@sequent.com> <1114@bug.UUCP>
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:42:43 GMT
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- In article <1114@bug.UUCP> stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov3.014838.2809@sequent.com> mikep@sequent.com
- >(Michael A. Prescott) writes:
- >>I guess I still have to disagree with you, and maybe throw a little
- >>different slant on this. My understanding of the `real' LEGAL purpose
- >>of marriage has more to do with women as chattel, than it had to do
- >>with procreation. We (hopefully) have come a long way since then,
- >
- >That was never the purpose of our laws.
- >
-
- I see. A viewpoint that disagrees must, of course, be incorrect,
- eh, Steve?
-
- >>but I think ym> will find on some deeper investigation that the majority
- >>of the `for the sake of the children' laws are based on religious views.
- >
- >Even if this were true, so what? It isn't my view (I'm not a Christian or
- >religious), and it is a fact that the marriage laws benefit children, and
- >thus society. Isn't that a worth while purpose?
- >
-
- Folks have cited examples where the laws don't necessarily benefit the
- children. Although the purpose may indeed be worthwhile (benefiting
- children), the laws do not always accomplish that.
-
- Certainly simply declaring that they do definitely doesn't accomplish
- anything worthwhile at all, unless it is to just stir up arguments.
-
- >>This is not to say that I believe women are chattel; in fact, my wife
- >>could probably make the case that I'm a lot closer to chattel in value...
- >
- >So why bring it up?
- >
-
- Why bring it up? Which part? The first phrase was to keep folks from
- misinterpreting my point of view on marriage, the second phrase was to
- inject a little lightness into an arrogant discussion.
-
- As for the idea about the legal purpose of marriage, if you missed the
- point, it was supposed to be a counter to your "the legal purpose of
- marriage" line of thought regarding the idea of "it's good for the
- kids".
-
- >>The point I was trying to make in my first follow up is that there
- >>are more reasons and more rights that mixed-gender (?) couples seem
- >>to enjoy than same-gender couples. This, as stated many times, is
- >>discrimination.
- >
- >So what? As I have stated, I see nothing wrong with discriminating between
- >traditional marriages and other arrangements. In fact, it is demonstrably
-
- The fact that you see nothing wrong is the problem. Too bad.
-
- >good for children. The question is whether it is legitimate and legal for
- >states to do that. I say yes (and so do the courts, state legislatures,
- >and I'm sure, the majority of the people). So far, no one has made a
- >convincing case that it isn't.
-
- Nor will they, or I. You don't want it that way, so it won't be.
- Oh well.
-
- Mike
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