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- From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
- Newsgroups: news.groups
- Subject: Re: CFV? What's a CFV??
- Date: 21 Nov 1992 19:52:43 GMT
- Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
- Lines: 45
- Message-ID: <1em42bINNpv4@morrow.stanford.edu>
- References: <1992Nov17.235651.17091 <BALDWIN.92Nov20130714@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil> <1992Nov20.234614.18156@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>
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- In article <1992Nov20.234614.18156@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>
- dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
- >Existance of motivation does not infer its necessity.
-
- [ Dave, please check on the meanings of subtle terms
- like "infer" before you use them. It'll make your postings
- look much more polished and professional. Thanks.]
-
- If it's elitist to expect that people be sufficiently
- motivated to learn what USENET is before they try
- to change it, I'm an elitist. It takes a few minutes
- of reading the postings in news.announce.newusers and
- a few hours of reading news.groups to join the elite.
-
- If this burden is a chilling obstacle to participation
- in the USENET pseudo-democracy, too bad. If your
- sysadmin is too overworked or too negligent to point
- all the new users towards news.announce.newusers,
- do it yourself for the benefit of other new users
- or go find a professionally-run online service.
-
- [referring to a practice of restricting posting access
- until competence is demonstrated:]
- >Your efforts are well meaning, perhaps even fascistly so. Now if every
- >admin were like that, I'd agree that there'd be no excuse for ignorance.
-
- Nobody but you, Dave, cares about excusing ignorance.
- We just don't choose to accommodate people who can't
- be bothered to remedy their ignorance.
-
- >>Well, coercion doesn't seem to be an issue here.
- >
- >"Take your discussions to rec.music.makers.synth, and not rec.music.synth"
-
- That's an indication of lack of good will on the part of
- an individual participant in a newsgroup. The place
- to redress the problem is on the newsgroup, and the
- only available instrument is peer pressure from the
- other participants. When I see an unnecessarily
- rude message of that sort on a group I care about, I
- urge its author to be more tolerant.
- --
-
- Chuck Karish karish@mindcraft.com
- (415) 323-9000 x117 karish@pangea.stanford.edu
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