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- From: wicks@dcdsv0.fnal.gov (Matthew Wicks)
- Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi
- Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.sys.sgi reorganization
- Followup-To: poster
- Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:50:03 -0500
- Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL
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-
- This article is the 2nd CALL FOR VOTES on a reorganization of the comp.sys.sgi
- hierarchy. It is followed by an acknowledgemenf of votes received (taken
- from the From: line from the vote received).
-
- Currently there is a single comp.sys.sgi that receives 50-70 messages a day.
- This split will break the group into subject areas to allow people to follow
- the areas that are of interest to them. The decisions on which subgroups
- are being proposed are the result of 3 RFD's that have occured over the
- past 4 months are so.
-
- This proposal also details how the info-iris mailing list will be handled in
- light of the split of the comp.sys.sgi hierarchy. The details of how this
- will be handled is based on what the info-iris mailing list administrator is
- willing to provide. There is no vote on how the info-iris mailing list is
- handled. These changes will take effect, assuming the comp.sys.sgi hierarchy
- is split into several groups.
-
- PLEASE EXAMINE THE ENTIRE PROPOSAL BEFORE VOTING ON IT.
-
- +----------+
- | PROPOSAL |
- +----------+
-
- Create comp.sys.sgi.
- admin Discussions of system administration issues. This would
- include issues such as kernel tuning, security, and networking.
- announce general announcements (conferences, user groups, ftp
- archives, etc)
- apps Discussions of various application packages , both those
- provided by SGI, as well as third party applications.
- bugs Discussions/posting of bugs found in the IRIX operating system.
- graphics Discussion of SGI graphics issues (i.e. X-windows, Inventor,
- Imagelib, GL, etc.) Postings should always be issues specific
- to using a SGI machine.
- hardware Discussion of hardware issues including connection of
- perhipherals.
- misc Anything else, that doesn't fit one of the above groups.
-
- All of the groups except .announce will be unmoderated. It is convention
- that a .announce group is moderated. I will serve as the moderator for
- the group (Matt Wicks, wicks@dcdmjw.fnal.gov).
-
- The following explains how the info-iris mailing list will be handled, assuming
- that the CFV results in a split of the comp.sys.sgi group:
-
- - There will remain one mailing list called info-iris@brl.mil. All of the
- new comp.sys.sgi newsgroups would be fed to the mailing list. The admin of
- info-iris is unwilling to maintain individual mailing lists for each
- separate news group. The address for info-iris-request@brl.mil will be
- maintained and is to be used to request additions or deletions to the
- mailing list.
- - New mailing addresses will be created for each new comp.sys.sgi group
- (i.e. info-iris-apps@brl.mil, info-iris-graphics@brl.mil, etc.). Mail
- sent to these addresses will go to the appropriate comp.sys.sgi group
- as well as to the info-iris mailing list. When mail is sent to one
- of these addresses, the Reply-To: field will be set accordinly to make
- replying easier. For example, mail sent to info-iris-graphics@brl.mil will
- have info-iris-graphics@brl.mil in the Reply-To: field.
- - Mail sent to the address info-iris@brl.mil will be rejected and a
- message will be returned to the sender informing them of the availability
- of the individual info-iris-subject addresses. This will force people to
- post to a specific news group and allow for all mail and news posting to
- be cross posted.
-
- +-----------+
- | RATIONALE |
- +-----------+
-
- comp.sys.sgi receives approximately 50-70 messages per day. It is difficult
- to follow this group even with the use of a kill file. This split will break
- the discussion into specific categories.
-
- +---------------+
- | VOTING METHOD |
- +---------------+
-
- Send votes to the mailbox "sgi@dcdmjw.fnal.gov".
-
- Each vote must use this form:
-
- ======== START VOTING FORM =========
- admin yes/no/abstain
- announce yes/no/abstain
- apps yes/no/abstain
- bugs yes/no/abstain
- graphics yes/no/abstain
- hardware yes/no/abstain
- misc yes/no/abstain
- ======== END VOTING FORM =========
-
- A valid vote must include a "yes", "no" or "abstain" for EACH proposed
- change. Each proposed newsgroup creation renaming will stand on
- its own thus allowing a split of the comp.sys.sgi group, even if a specific
- proposed subgroup is unpopular.
-
- +----------+
- | SCHEDULE |
- +----------+
-
- 1. Discussion:
-
- The discussion with the last RFD began September 24, 1992 with its posting
- in news.announce.newgroups. The discussion ended on November 2, 1992.
-
- 2. Voting:
-
- The vote will run through December 2, 1992.
-
- I will post a second Call For Votes, and possibly a list of
- unreachable return addresses, during the voting period. When the
- vote is over, I will post the final results.
-
- 3. Waiting Period:
-
- I will observe the normal waiting period of five days from the
- time that the final results appear in news.announce.newgroups.
- During this time, people may report lost votes.
-
- 4. Consummation:
-
- After the waiting period, the appropriate control messages for the
- creation of any new groups will be issued.
-
- If all goes as planned, whatever parts of the reorganization that
- pass will take effect by December 15, 1992.
-
- ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF VOTES RECEIVED SO FAR:
-
- m@rudedog.asd.sgi.com (Brian McClendon)
- stewart@mol.ucns.uga.edu (David Stewart)
- khillig@Chem.LSA.umich.edu
- weinhous@castor.hahnemann.edu (Martin S. Weinhous Ph.D.)
- leibing@omi.e-technik.uni-ulm.de (Bernd Leibing)
- Craig Steinberger <stein-c@eng.buffalo.edu>
- balbes@osiris.rti.org (Lisa Balbes)
- bwallet%apssgi@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Brad Wallet)
- fouts@exacto.dallas.sgi.com (Christopher Fouts)
- ean-Francois Panisset <panisset@Lightning.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>
- Michel Besner <frite@info.polymtl.ca>
- dbj@james.psych.yale.edu
- Jeremy.DuBois@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
- fish@eosdads.gsfc.nasa.gov (John R. Vanderpool)
- Wierse@rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Andreas Wierse)
- mikey@eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com (Mike Yang)
- dale@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (dale chayes)
- Mike Weisenborn <mdw@hojo.larc.nasa.gov>
- marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen)
- Steve Rikli <steve@archone.tamu.edu>
- "Jim Callahan" <jmc@sioux.eel.ufl.edu>
- gary@enigma.esd.sgi.com (Wizard of OZ)
- steve@chaos.ocean.fsu.edu (Steve Van Gorder)
- rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
- schuman@eacces.wpd.sgi.com (Aaron Schuman)
- stinedur@wl.com (Steve Stinedurf)
- dave@stereo.mitre.org (David A. Southard)
- Mike Hoffmann <Mike.Hoffmann@ap.mchp.sni.de>
- bogstad@blaze.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad)
- holly@cam.nist.gov (Holly Rushmeier)
- matwood@labhp11.cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
- B.J. 04-Nov-1992 1157 <herbison@erlang.enet.dec.com>
- jdh@bu-pub.bu.edu (Jason Heirtzler)
- tpaquett@ita.lgc.com (Trevor Paquette)
- Allen Akin <akin@tuolumne.asd.sgi.com>
- David Bremner <bremner@cs.sfu.ca>
- Mark K Greene <wupost.wustl.edu!tripos!uranus!mkg>
- dpape@imlab.landarch.uiuc.edu (Daniel X Pape)
- syscrc@pickle.Gsu.EDU (Randy Carpenter)
- tohanson@gonzo.lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Hanson)
- Ed Trumbull <trumbull@unx.sas.com>
- mmt@redbrick.com (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS)
- "John D. McCalpin" <mccalpin@perelandra.cms.udel.edu>
- fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
- sitongia@ozzel.hao.ucar.edu (HAO Computer System Managment Group)
- George Lindholm <lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca>
- emmett@igor.tamri.com (Emmett A. Cunningham)
- hjorring@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Curt Hjorring)
- wsj@triton.mti.sgi.com (Bill Johnson)
- wicks@dcdmjw.fnal.gov (Matthew Wicks)
- Doctor Math <root@sanger.chem.nd.edu>
- mfolenta@pica.army.mil
- amys@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Amy K. Swanson)
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- rthomson@dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
- ericjohn@scf.usc.edu (Eric Johnson)
- TKIRKMAN@csbsju.edu (Tom Kirkman)
- macleod@vissgi.cvrti.utah.edu (Rob MacLeod)
- ERCOLESSI@UIMRL4.MRL.UIUC.EDU
- ra@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Christoph Ramshorn)
- johne@iti.gov.sg (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer)
- williams@agomoda.asd.sgi.com (Eric Williams)
- Scott Blachowicz <scott@statsci.com>
- fairlieb@karman.aod.dsto.gov.au (Bruce Fairlie)
- mark@wehi.edu.au (Mark Watson)
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- johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki)
- todd@flex.eng.mcmaster.ca (Todd Pfaff)
- keving <keving@corin.ultra.com>
- nathan@hilbert.biology.YALE.EDU (Nathan F. Janette)
- Hana Strominger <FIMA602%HAIFAUVM.bitnet@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL>
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- plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
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- t.sippel-dau@ic.ac.uk
- neelin@pet.mni.mcgill.ca (Peter NEELIN)
- balusek@EUROPA.brooks.af.mil
- "LEE MARDEN" <lms@swlvx2.msd.ray.com>
- Frank S. Taylor IV 283-4278 <taylorf@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov>
- "Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB" <blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov>
- smb@smb.chem.niu.edu (Steven Bachrach)
- rodger@qucis.queensu.ca (Jim Rodger)
- "John W. Schwegler" <john@sg25.aud.temple.edu>
- ron@odysseus.biochem.ualberta.ca (Ron Meleshko)
- uunet.UU.NET!uunet!robcad!alik
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- jvolpe@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Volpe)
- uunet.UU.NET!virtuoso!chris (Chris Cressy)
- Ken Fitch <fitch@ittc.wec.com>
- haidl@mars.cs.uregina.ca (Mark Haidl)
- steveg@cadkey.cadkey.com (Steve Gallichio)
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- Tom Whittaker <tom@sisyphus.arc.nasa.gov>
- Jim Reed <reed@shaman.nexagen.com>
- "David H. Brierley" <dhb@ssd.ray.com>
- Tim Day <tday@ps.ucl.ac.uk>
- bob@prepress.com (Robert Crowe)
- srogers@tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
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- heiko@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Heiko Schlichting)
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- heinau@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Vera Heinau)
- creon@nas.nasa.gov (M. Creon Levit)
- aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
- Stefan.Farestam@cerfacs.fr
- Chris Esposito <chrise@atc.boeing.com>
- rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com (Robert Keller)
- Tom Fitzgerald <fitz@wang.com>
- hoffmann@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Daniel Hoffmann)
- andras@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Andras Salamon)
- melchers@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Bernd Melchers)
- simon@lia.di.epfl.ch (Simon Leinen)
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- mjz@Texaco.COM (Mike Zeitlin)
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- ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US (Gregory G. Woodbury)
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- Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
- flynn@eecs.wsu.edu
- marby@laura.harvard.edu (Craig Marby)
- Marc.Desrochers@BRI.NRC.CA (Marc Desrochers)
- T.BARKER@qut.edu.au
- muegge@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Ingo Muegge)
- "Andrew C. Aitchison" <aca@maths.bath.ac.uk>
- Ray Schnitzler <ras@unipress.com>
- Mark Bartelt <sysmark@chipmunk.cita.utoronto.ca>
- brad@research.nj.nec.com (Brad Gianulis)
- STOUT@msg.UCSF.EDU
- Joe Keane <amd.com!osc!jgk>
- Michael Quinn <MJQUINN@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
- Klaus Rennecke <marion@cs.tu-berlin.de>
- mark@laura.harvard.edu (Mark Rambacher)
- chk@alias.com (C. Harald Koch)
- Lothar Butsch <but@UniBw-Hamburg.DE>
- root@random.asd.sgi.com (Super-User)
- Charles Shub <cdash@moet.cs.colorado.edu>
- Sven M. Heinicke" <widener!sven>
- sartori@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Fredo Sartori)
- phaneuf@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Daniel Phaneuf)
- mcleod@esprit.esd.sgi.com (Rick McLeod)
- Claude Cantin <cantin@nrccsb3.di.nrc.ca>
- brighton@pixar.com (Bill Carson)
- joes@graphics.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph R. Spann)
- Daniel R Adams <dr-adams@ccmail.pnl.gov>
- pete@ent-img.com (Pete Carah)
- dwallach@zonker.cs.berkeley.edu (Dan Wallach)
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- brianm@cbme.unsw.edu.au (Brian Murray)
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- Wayne Podaima <WJP@VM.NRC.CA>
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- Matt Wicks
- Group Leader, UNIX System Support
- Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
- wicks@fnal.fnal.gov
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