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- From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
- Subject: Re: a.b.p.e. distribution (was, Re: Does USENET condone CHILD
- In-Reply-To: mbrandan@gmuvax2.gmu.edu's message of Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:32:10 GMT
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:27:06 GMT
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- MB> == Mario Brandan <mbrandan@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
- RT> == rmtodd@servalan.servalan.com (Richard Todd) writes:
-
- RT> system administrator *does* have a Quadra 700 on his desk; in
- RT> addition to being his desktop machine, it's the news server, and he
- RT> puts up with the (decidedly non-trivial) load providing Usenet
- RT> service to the whole campus puts on his machine.
-
- MB> Nobody forced him to do that right? Fine, what is your point?
-
- News machines are not free. News disk space is not free. A 2G
- (formatted) drive costs in the neighborhood of $2500-$3K depending on
- discount deals and the like.
-
- (from finger mbrandan@gmuvax2.gmu.edu)
- F> Login name: mbrandan In real life: Mario Brandan
- F> Directory: /usr/students/mbrandan Shell: /bin/csh
-
- How much disk space is available on /usr/students? Do you have a disk
- quota? Why, since disk is just SOOOOO cheap? Why aren't you
- complaining that they don't give you a separate 2G drive of your own?
-
- RT> Look, *you* think Usenet is important. *I* think Usenet is important, so
- RT> much so that I bought my own machine for it, with my own money (which is
- RT> probably more than *you*'ve ever done). But the people who sign purchase
- RT> orders at Universities *don't* think this. Wake up and smell the coffee.
-
- MB> Buddy, what you do with your money is your business, if you have
- MB> problems with what people want, take your server else where!
-
- And he might. The point is that it is not *your* place, nor is it
- anyone else's place, to tell him what groups he will carry or not carry.
-
- RT> You think disk drives are cheap. Fine. *You* send us one. We prefer
- RT> the 1.2GB Fujitsu SCSI drives. Write me and I'll tell you the address to
- RT> put on the package. Put up or shut up.
-
- MB> That's the kind of drive you probably have!
-
- Yeah, and he probably paid good money for it, too.
-
- MB> Maybe if you looked around you'd find cheap ones so you can store
- MB> more info.
-
- Cheap != free.
-
- MB> You know, I just think you have an attitude problem I really didn't
- MB> like your language either, if you want to write to this newsgroup,
- MB> you should straighten out your foul language.
-
- Foul language? What foul language, "Quadra 700"?
-
- MB> It takes up disk space buddy!
-
- As much as one uuencoded gif? I doubt it.
- --
- Christopher K. Davis | ``Usenet seems to run much like the Kif (or,
- <ckd@eff.org> EFF #14 | for the TV generation, Klingon) high command.
- System Administrator, EFF | Whoever takes action and can be heard wins.''
- +1 617 864 0665 [CKD1] | --Peter da Silva <peter@ferranti.com>
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