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- From: emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
- Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
- In-Reply-To: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov's message of Sun, 15 Nov 1992 11:45:39 GMT
- Message-ID: <EMCGUIRE.92Nov15180944@fuller.intellection.com>
- Sender: emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
- Followups-To: news.admin,news.admin.policy
- Organization: Intellection, Inc.
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:09:44 GMT
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- NOTE: Followups directed to news.admin,news.admin.policy only, at the
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- In article <1992Nov15.114539.10491@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes) writes:
-
- What if there are some gateways (which have this ability) that have
- been set up and left on automatic? What if new maintainers have no
- idea how to change the name, or have no idea that the gateway even
- has the ability?
-
- This point strikes me as contrived. First, since the hypothetical
- situation contradicts the observed facts, I discount it. Second,
- /assuming/ this controversy recurs over another renaming, /assuming/
- the renamed group is gatewayed, /assuming/ the gateway has no
- maintainer, or if the so-called "maintainer" is so incompetent that
- s/he can't even change the name of the newsgroup, the gateway will
- likely be taken over by a volunteer at another site.
-
- >I see no evidence of blind adherence. What I see instead is
- >acceptance of the rule of law.
- Seriously, what's the difference?
-
- It is the difference between blind adherence and reasoned adherence.
- Ignoring the rules this time will lead to more disputes because of the
- precedent established that the rules can be shouted down, amendments
- or no. Following the rules this time will have a small (and hotly
- disputed) temporary negative effect on one newsgroup.
-
- >I think revotes are a big waste of time and should not happen.
- Why?
-
- The newsgroup administration process should be simple, fast, and
- cheap. The guidelines should provide a framework for such a process.
- Revotes are duplication of effort which should only occur if a gross
- injustice occurs. In that case, the vote will be annulled by
- consensus, one possible consequence being a revote. Putting rules for
- revotes into the guidelines will just arm and encourage rules fanatics
- to force revotes. That is why I oppose revotes in the guidelines.
- Again, a yardstick for good policy is whether the right thing occurs
- quickly with a minimum of articles posted to n.a.newgroups and other
- related groups.
-
- Again, I think no gross injustice occurred in this case. The current
- state of affairs is acceptable to nearly everyone. That is why I
- think a revote of r.m.synth is a waste of time.
-
- If I can find a good way to drop it, I will. But I can't right now...as
- this is what a lot of people want for the sake of compliance. I do
- not agree with the issue and will continue to not agree as long as
- people are willing to not agree with me.
-
- I think a straw poll would put this in better perspective. I will
- conduct one.
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