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- From: cher@ksr.com (Mike Cherepov)
- Newsgroups: ne.politics
- Subject: Re: State Socialism
- Keywords: for Mr. Yodaiken
- Message-ID: <19134@ksr.com>
- Date: 22 Nov 92 21:22:57 EST
- References: <BZS.92Nov8151938@ussr.std.com> <18319@ksr.com> <BZS.92Nov8224214@ussr.std.com> <56233@dime.cs.umass.edu>
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- In article <56233@dime.cs.umass.edu> yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
- >So, the transition of Czarist Russia, a nation which had an industrial base
- >which was the laughingstock of the world, to the USSR of the 1960's was
- >accomplished without *creation* of wealth? Where did all the factories,
- >roads, bridges, science institutes, literate workers, ..... all the stuff
- >of which modern economies are built, where did it all come from?
-
- The economy of the Czarist Russia, that "laughingstock of the
- world", grew very rapidly in this century until 1914 (WW1). In fact,
- industrial production of the USSR in many categories did not catch
- up with pre-Bolshevik Russia until well after WW2. I would guess
- that the nutritional levels of Czarist Russia were never achieved
- by the USSR. That Communists, who ruined every economy they got
- their hands on (let's not forget ecological costs, slave labor and
- such), were an improvement over Russia's burgeoning capitalism is
- a weird claim indeed for 1992.
-
- The economy of the USSR is now shambolic, with the total size of the
- economy, paradoxically, less than the value of raw materials that go
- into it. This economy is emphatically lacking in "all the stuff of
- which modern economies are built." Then again, I would not deny that
- the USSR has had its hits, notably with space and military. Nor am
- I saying that there was no growth - most of it in the wrong places
- and way too slow compared to the West's.
-
- >There were many problems with the USSR's idiotic economic and political
- >system, but the religious dogma of capitalism will not help us to understand
- >them.
-
- Ah, yes, but the empirically proven wealth-creation practice and theory
- of capitalism just might do the trick.
- Mike Cherepov
-