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- From: seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna Watson)
- Subject: Re: Please Don't Spank!
- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.203341.8808@bcrka451.bnr.ca>
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- Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
- References: <184390002@hpsemc.cup.hp.com> <1992Nov11.092908.15849@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> <TIGGER.92Nov12153638@satyr.Sylvan.COM>
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- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:33:41 GMT
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- In article <TIGGER.92Nov12153638@satyr.Sylvan.COM> tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov11.092908.15849@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> tnzj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
- >
- > > Please don't spank! Don't teach obediance!>
- > > (stuff deleted)
- > > We as parents are not here to "dicipline" our "wild" children. We
- > > are here to nurture them and be an example.
- > (stuff deleted)
- >
- > I agree completely. I think spanking is merely an outlet for the parent's
- > emotions. The child running around in the restaurant is a good example. It
- > is the adult that is embarrased and frustrated at being embarassed. When a
- > child runs into the street, it is the parent who is frightened and upset at
- > being scared. Spanking is the parent's emotional outlet; it deals with
- > their problem not the child's.
-
- I think you are missing the point here. As I have said before, I do not
- believe in spanking for teaching children. And as I have also said before,
- I sometimes spank my children, and when I do it is in fact an outlet for
- my emotions--it means I have lost my self-control and can't think of anything
- else to do. But it would be unfair to say that because I only spank under
- these circumstances therefore everyone who spanks is doing so for the same
- reasons. In fact, some who do spank have specifically said that they do
- not spank in anger, that they have calmly decided that this is the best
- thing for their children, that they are not using unreasonable force, and
- that they are also using non-physical methods where possible. Someone (I
- think it was Misty) even said that there is a distinction made between spanking
- for discipline and spanking in anger.
-
- Because of the way my parents used spanking with me, and because I have
- trouble controlling my temper, I cannot see using spanking as discipline; almost
- like a child of an alcoholic who cannot become a social drinker. And I do
- have philosophical objections to the use of violence to solve problems. But I
- am unwilling to condemn all those who have decided to spank as autocratic,
- unloving, or lacking in imagination. (Indeed, I have seen parents who use
- spanking reacting with more creativity and patience than I might have in some
- (non-spanking) situations.) Remember that most people who spank are as appalled
- by the idea of beating/injuring children as those who don't. Also, many people
- who do not spank may do as much if not more damage by calmly belittling their
- children.
-
- I would like to make a plea for tolerance--not that we should be prevented
- from discussing or vehemently disagreeing with the ideas of others, but
- that we should try to avoid assuming that identical actions have similar
- motives.
-
- --
- Seanna Watson Bell-Northern Research,
- (seanna@bnr.ca) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
-
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