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- From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet)
- Subject: Re: Exp. with Hibbard Brown
- Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
- Distribution: usa
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:40:34 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.194034.890@cbnews.cb.att.com>
- References: <38731@twerp.ease.arco.com>
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- In article <38731@twerp.ease.arco.com> cahuja@twerp.ease.arco.com (Chander Ahuja) writes:
- >Does anyone have experience using Hibbard Brown brokerage firm - have they
- >provided good advice, kept you upto date on happenings etc...am looking
- >to get involved with them , thought i'd see if anyone had any priors...
-
-
- Advice? Avoid them at all costs. If they call hang up. If they
- want to talk, hang up.
-
- If they tell you they have only one purpose in life, and that is to
- make you rich, that they could be out having fun, playing golf,
- skiing, etc. but they'd rather let you in on a once in a lifetime
- opportunity that no one else in the entire world knows about but
- you, and if you respond right now (tomorrow may be too late), hang
- up!
-
- If I haven't stated my advice too clearly. and you still have a
- question, please ask.
-
- Hibbard Brown pushes low capitalized stocks, often closely held,
- often with a single market maker. They pretty much set the price
- on these issues, and without many market makers you have no idea
- whether the price is fair or not. They have enormous spreads
- between bid and asked prices. And they often charge their own
- markup/down. So they make money on the trade as broker and also
- as market maker.
-
- ========
-
-
- I have an overall general recommendation on brokers:
-
- -- If they call you, you could ask for lots of literature about the
- company and if they are pushing an issue ask for lots and lots of
- information about the issue.
-
- -- Never, N E V E R , buy stock in response to an unsolicited
- phone call. Most of the time that's enough to get them off your
- back. If they are legitimate they might follow up, and if they are
- crooks they might follow up, but at least you will have time to read
- what they send you.
-
- -- When you see a deal that is a once in a lifetime deal and it
- will be too late tomorrow, then let someone else get rich. Run.
- Contrary to what you may have read, there usually is a tomorrow.
-
- -- If you see a large spread between bid and asked price, stay
- away. By enormous, I mean 1 and 1 3/4 or 1/2 and 1 1/4.
-
- On the other hand, a spread such as 62 1/4 - 63, while large, is
- a much smaller percent.
-
-
- -- If the stovck sells at under $5 be very very suspicious.
-
- -- Very Important: Get from the broker the Names and Addresses of
- Every market maker for that stock. If less than 4-5 market makers,
- then run. If less than three market makers run very fast.
-
- Do not accept a general statement "There are half a dozen or more
- market makers" or "There are lots of market makers, but it will take
- me a while to get their names" or "I think Merrill Lynch and
- Prusdential both are market makers" --- Get the exact names and
- addresses. A legitimate broker will have no trouble at all getting
- them. Then contact one or two and verify they do make a market in
- that stock.
-
- Hibbard Brown in particular deals in penny stocks, makes their own
- markets, and are often the only market maker. They have no one to
- say independently what the stock's value is.
-
- (In today's lingo, a penny stock is one selling at under $5.00)
-
- So if they call, don't make excuses. Do not think you have to be
- nice to someone calling you to take your money. Just hang up.
- You could just say no, and then hang up. But if you don't hang up
- soon, remember, they are trained to take your money.
- --
- Art Kamlet a_s_kamlet@att.com AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus
-