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- From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
- Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
- Subject: Re: DIY blown-in insulation
- Message-ID: <3999@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 06:07:38 GMT
- References: <1992Nov16.194242.10998@adobe.com>
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- In article <1992Nov16.194242.10998@adobe.com> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
- >I'll save Chris Lewis the trouble and mention that rock wool is
- >claimed to have some advantages over cellulose, etc. I suspect
- >you have to live near a steel mill for it to be economical.
- >(is this rock wool really steel mill slag?)
-
- I was staying out of the discussion up til now, but ... ;-)
-
- Rock wool *does* have some advantages over cellulose and fiberglass.
- Higher R value, non-packing, non-flammable/non-outgassing under any and
- all situations, no sog under any circumstances except outright continuous
- immersion (no compaction after dryout), better handling characteristics
- than fiberglass, better sound deadening etc. etc. etc. And often cheaper
- than fiberglass. Cellulose, after being treated for fire and compacting
- resistance (whether it's truly permanent I'm not going to guess)
- apparently costs more than fiberglass (according to some installation
- quotes that Fred Christiansen mentioned a while back).
-
- However, as I've not seen any consumer-level-rentable equipment for
- installing loose-fill rockwool, I guess you got me.... ;-)
-
- [To be precise, I've not seen loose-fill rockwool available, so
- installation consists of running rockwool batts thru a shredder
- then a blower. The equipment that did our previous house's
- attic was mounted in a 14' truck.]
-
- As I understand it, rock wool is iron-refining slag. So it's
- not going to be found at a simple steel (ie: rolling sheet, tube etc.)
- mill unless it does its own refining. Tho, I don't imagine that
- proximity to a source of slag is going to make a heck of a lot of
- difference. A single rail car of slag is going to produce an
- awesome amount of rockwool. An off-the-cuff calculation for
- 80 tons worth of slag seems to be around 350K square feet
- of R21.5. Even assuming a couple grand for shipping, that only
- works out to a buck or so per 5-10 bags. I should also point out
- that rockwool, here, is going to have to have made a journey of
- about 350 miles to the processing plant, then another 350 miles
- here as finished product. (Sudbury->Guelph->Ottawa. Don't know
- whether Hamilton creates refining slag or not) Still cheaper than
- fiberglass.
-
- One of the home-centre chains in Canada has been offering DIY
- cellulose installation, rather similar to what you describe,
- for quite a number of years. However, I don't know whether
- they still do it - at least for attic installation, the relatively
- small amount of labour involved doesn't seem to justify DIY.
- Wall installation is a different story, tho, because of the
- drilling etc., few would attempt DIYing it either. I know
- I wouldn't. Attic maybe.
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