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- From: konstan@saturn.cs.umn.edu (Joe Konstan)
- Newsgroups: misc.consumers
- Subject: Re: Doctor ripoff, or just reality?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.010132.6974@news2.cis.umn.edu>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 01:01:32 GMT
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- In article <CURT.92Nov16173338@vtucs.cc.vt.edu>, curt@vtucs.cc.vt.edu (Curt Tilmes) writes:
- |> In article <1992Nov13.061347.4826@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> kapa@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (k.a.perkins) writes:
- |> > It is quite clear to me what my insurance is not
- |> > going to pay for, like preventative medicine, for example. My insurance
- |> > will not pay a dime for vaccinations, but if I or one of my dependents
- |> > got polio or tuberculosious (sp?), they would pay big time.
- |> Why do you need insurance for a 100% probable cost? There is an
- |> overhead cost for every dollar that you (or your employer) pays the
- |> insurance company, who then pays the doctor. If you know you are
- |> going to have to make some payments, just keep that money out of your
- |> paycheck yourself.
-
- This argument keeps recurring. To summarize:
-
- "Insurance" is a way of buying out of risk. You should therefore
- have as high a deductible as you can afford, as well as co-payments
- if possible, to reduce your insurance cost while maintaining
- a barrier against unacceptable calamities.
-
- I disagree with the idea that medical coverage is, ever was, or should be
- insurance. I know that it is run in an insurance-like fashion, but most
- people want and expect to purchase (or get from their employers) a package
- of medical care. This is expected to include routine care as well as
- emergency care. The model is not insurance, but rather a service contract.
- I pay $X a month, and the nice people with the sharpened pencils agree to
- cover my medical expenses (perhaps subject to some predictable co-payments).
-
- Now, if you think of medical care as a service contract, it should be clear
- that there are all sorts of benefits to be had by including almost all
- routine procedures in the "covered" category. Since the insurer buys in bulk,
- it should be able to negotiate a better price on vaccines and other
- preventive care. Also, the cost goes down in the long run if prevention is
- heavily encouraged. I'd even suggest it might be "required" in the same way
- that regular oil changes and maintenance are required for cars under
- long-term service contracts (extended warantees).
-
- Basically, I think in this matter the good HMO's have been leading the way.
-
- Why isn't this the way things are handled now?
-
- 1. Too much "surface price" competition. A lot of non-HMO medical insurance
- is interchangeable enough that companies can quickly switch to cheaper
- insurers or policies. As a result, the pitch is to keep down the
- "official" price while boosting the actual cost to the enrolled.
-
- 2. Prevention only pays for the long-term. Companies don't save money by
- paying for preventive care unless they expect to keep the same
- customers for a long time. For example, the Graduate Student Health
- Insurance Program (GSHIP) at U.C. Berkeley pays for no general physical
- exams. Economically, that makes sense. The odds are that you will be
- covered by someone else by the time any problems arise.
-
- 3. Remote decision making. All the decisions are made too far away from the
- actual customer/patients. Company personnel departments and insurance
- underwriters have their own agendas.
-
- What solutions are there?
-
- I think there are a few that have merits--but they need wide implementation.
-
- 1. HMO's are one good idea. They aren't perfect, but they cover some
- of the problems well. They could even go further by rewarding clients
- for pro-health activities (regular check-up, lose weight, quit smoking,
- ...)
-
- 2. A good health history should be a tradeable asset. Perhaps a person
- that is changing insurers should be reviewed, under standard criteria, and
- the prior insurer is paid a certain bonus by the new one for a good
- health history.
-
- 3. Health care must be nationwide, and should be portable between employers.
- Portability will increase the benefits to insurers of providing
- prevention since they will be more likely to have long-term
- relationships.
-
- 4. Medical costs must be brought back in-line. The market should handle this
- with a combination of group discounts, HMO's and different cost structures
- based on malpractice suit caps (i.e., I agree not to sue for more than
- $100,000 in non-direct damages and get a lower price). If this doesn't
- happen directly, it may take some government trust-busting to bring in
- competition.
-
- 5. Sane employee benefits. It is absurd that I pay the same to cover me
- and my wife as for me, my wife, and 12 kids. It is also absurd that
- few employers provide real economic incentives for employees to choose, or
- be eligible for, reduced cost insurance. I think that benefit accounts,
- convertible to dollars, are the right way to go.
-
- Well, I've rambled on about what I think.
- Now, looking at health coverage as a service contract, do any of you change
- your minds?
-
- Joe Konstan
- konstan@cs.umn.edu
-