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- From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo)
- Subject: Part 24, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:47:35 GMT
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- I made the following transcript from a tape recording
- of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
- WBAI-FM (99.5)
- 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
- New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707
-
- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
- (continuation)
- JIM MARRS:
- You're right. And it seems pretty incomprehensible that the same
- media outlets that would basically cause the destruction of Nixon
- would try to cover up about Kennedy, but I think there is some
- rationale there. First off, to explain why they do this, you go
- back to the time of the assassination -- and I think Jerry Policoff
- would agree with me on this. This was a whole entirely different
- time and place: this country. Okay? A lot of people within the
- media actively, voluntarily participated and did things for the
- intelligence community out of the noblest of purposes. They felt
- like they were being patriotic. If they went to Russia, say, and
- did a story and they came back, and the CIA domestic contact
- services officer would come to them and say: "Well, what did you
- see?" They would tell them what they saw. They weren't spies. They
- weren't working for the Government. They weren't on the payroll.
- They were simply doing what they thought was patriotic.
-
- Now, at the time of the Kennedy Assassination and for maybe ten
- years past then, until about the time of the Garrison
- investigation, they were still clinging to this idea. They felt
- like they were doing something good. Now, I think a lot of them
- can probably look back and realize that they were being used by
- these people within the intelligence community, not only to get
- information, but also to give information. It just goes right up
- the ladder. We've got people today who are successful columnists,
- and they're successful columnists because they always seem to have
- a little bit of insight into issues and into Governmental matters.
- Well they do because they get this from their sources within the
- CIA and within other Government agencies. They know that if they
- say anything that angers those sources, those sources will close
- themselves off to them. And then, pretty soon they won't be able
- to have anything to put in their columns, and pretty soon their
- columns will be dropped by the newspapers around the country.
- So it's a very self-serving thing. It's a self-preservation-type
- thing.
-
- And then you keep going until you get to what I think is probably
- the major downfall and the major problem within the media today,
- which is just sheer, common laziness. The Kennedy Assassination is
- a complex subject. It has many labyrinths that you can get lost
- into. And it takes a lot of time and a lot of effort. And most
- media people and most editors are simply not willing to devote the
- time and the effort that it would take to pick their way through
- this mine field and find out what's right and what's not right.
-
- JERRY POLICOFF:
- I would agree with that. And I would also add that I think they
- were embarrassed by their early coverage. It's very difficult to
- look at the work that the media did in the aftermath of the
- assassination, which, by the way, was something that, in that day,
- was very natural. They were spoon-fed the Oswald legend. They were
- spoon-fed the evidence. Everything was accepted uncritically and
- passed on to the American Public. In the years since, I think the
- media is very embarrassed to look back at the coverage that they
- afforded this issue back in 1963, and they are basically too
- embarrassed to repudiate it.
-
- GARY NULL:
- Jerry, let me ask you about a very important character in all this.
- And that is L. Fletcher Prouty. And that, I believe also, Jim, was
- the character that Donald Sutherland played in the movie, JFK:
- the insider who knew all about what was going on, and who explained
- it to Jim Garrison in the movie.
-
- JIM MARRS:
- Yeah. That's correct. I believe that primarily the Mr. X character
- in the movie, JFK was based on Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty.
-
- GARY NULL:
- Okay. I'd like each of your interpretations of what Prouty has
- said and what he knows. At least you can tell our audience.
-
- JERRY POLICOFF:
- Well, Fletcher Prouty is certainly somebody who needs to be taken
- seriously. I believe he was the liaison officer between the
- Pentagon and the CIA. He was certainly in a position to know a
- great deal about the inner workings of the intelligence community
- during the 1950s and `60s. He has reported on the breakdown of
- security. I'm not an expert on this, but I believe that security
- was passed on to military intelligence that day in Dallas.
- Am I right, Jim?
-
- JIM MARRS:
- Well, the Fourth Army Intelligence normally had agents who would
- join in and, on that particular occasion, they were told to stand
- down, and not to come to Dallas and not to participate in the
- security. And this is probably very significant because one of the
- things that Colonel Prouty has said -- and the more I look at it,
- the more I think he's exactly right -- that the key to a successful
- coup is not necessarily finding competent hit-men. I mean, anybody
- with a lot of money can go find a competent hit-man. The key is in
- withdrawing or reducing the normal security. And it seems obvious
- that that's what happened in Dallas that day.
-
- GARY NULL:
- Alright. Jim, go on a little further with Prouty. What else does
- he know?
-
- JIM MARRS:
- Well, as Jerry pointed out, he was the Deputy Director of Special
- Operations, and as such, he was a liaison between the CIA and the
- military. In other words, if the CIA was mounting some sort of
- operation and they needed support -- if they needed trucks, or if
- they needed an airplane, or if they needed air transport, or if
- they needed weaponry or something like that, they would go to the
- military and say: "This is what we need." And Prouty was the
- focal point officer who would do this.
-
- Now here's what was unique about his position. Since he was
- military, and not CIA, he was never required to sign the secrecy
- oath that all people who work for the CIA have to sign. And the
- secrecy oath -- the bottom line of it is that: If I reveal anything
- that I learn while working for the CIA, you can suspend my civil
- liberties, convict me in a court of law, and put me away for ever
- and ever. This is the basis of why so many people within the CIA
- cannot and will not talk and tell about what they know. But Prouty
- never signed that because he was a military man, and as such, he
- has been free to talk. And talk he has. All the way back to the
- publication of his book, THE SECRET TEAM, he has been saying
- that there is a power group -- a clique, if you will -- of people
- within the United States Government who operate this Government
- for their own purposes. I think that the Iran-Contra [operation]
- has proved this to be absolutely true, right on up `til today.
- (to be continued)
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-
- If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please
- assist in disseminating it by posting it to other bulletin boards,
- and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus.
- As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass-media's thirty-year
- cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of
- the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes
- ever more striking.
-
- John DiNardo
-
- If we seriously listen to this "God within us" ["conscience",
- if you will], we usually find ourselves being urged to take the
- more difficult path, the path of more effort rather than less.
- .... Each and every one of us, more or less frequently, will hold
- back from this work. .... Like every one of our ancestors before
- us, we are all lazy. So original sin does exist; it is our laziness.
-
- M. Scott Peck
- THE ROAD LESS TRAVELED
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