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- From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
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- Subject: Re: Looking for MPEG applications
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 01:12:33 GMT
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- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:31:42 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov9.200954.29542@pixel.kodak.com> jmoore@pixel.kodak.com (James H. Moore 726-0322) writes:
- >I saw a brief reference to MPEG (Motion Picture Experts Group), which was
- >defining a standard for digital motion pictures. The technique that
- >they were using was to do differences in the frames. This would work
- >well for the application that I would like. Realtime capture and playback
- >of a complete screen.
-
- Be careful not to run afoul of some of the basic assumptions of JPEG
- and MPEG.
-
- MPEG, and most modes of JPEG, carry out lossy compression. That is,
- the replayed image has slightly different red/green/blue (or YUV)
- intensities in the pixels than the original image, but the differences
- are small enough such that a continuous-tone image looks acceptable to
- the human eye.
-
- However, computer screens (X PseudoColor/StaticColor visual classes,
- and VGA images, for example) aren't continuous tone images. Lossy
- compression garbles them pretty badly. They're more closely related
- to laser-printer or FAX images than they are to photographs and motion
- pictures.
-
- If you're recording sequences of television images, MPEG might be a
- good choice. To get a look at what it can do, run down to your local
- Sears or expensive-gadget store and get a demo of the CD/I (Compact
- Disc Interactive) device put out by Phillips. Some of the motion
- pictures in CD/I use 1.15 megabit-per-second MPEG.
-
- Half an hour of MPEG will take a little over half a gigabyte of data.
-
- I don't know of any reasonably priced real-time MPEG encoding
- equipment on the market. Any MPEG encoders currently available
- (November 1992) are either slower-than-real-time or costing in the six
- figures, at least. But things are happening fast in this area.
-
- If you're recording what shows up on screen during an interactive
- session, you might consider compressing the screen information with
- some lossless image compression scheme.
-
- >I am looking for
- >applications which would record the output to the screen, which could be
- >"played back".
-
- Highland Software, Palo Alto, store@hisoft.infocomm.com (no business
- relationship to me) has a software package to record and play back X
- demos. Recording is carried out by protocol interposition (a la
- xscope). This may be closer to what you want. It certainly generates
- a more compact recording.
-
-
- Ollie Jones
-