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- From: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod)
- Subject: Re: archie and the archives (was Re: where mathtime.sty)
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- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.144034.3102@news.th-darmstadt.de>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:40:34 GMT
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- In article <00963D76.6273F440.1186@SHSU.edu>, "George D. Greenwade" <bed_gdg@SHSU.edu> writes:
- >
- > I hesitate to speak for Don or Aston on this, but I see this question about
- > our archives about three times a week and SHSU has the same problem these
- > sites have. Specifically, YMIR.CLAREMONT.EDU, Niord.SHSU.edu, and
- > tex.ac.uk are VMS machines, which archie doesn't work with (archie is just
- > about totally focused on Unix machines). I understand that some new
- > version of archie (which, unfortunately, I understand to be proprietary
- > instead of in the pd, as it is currently) is in the works which has the
- > ability to properly poll non-Unix platforms (which is about all archie
- > presently handles).
-
- To quote Peter Deutsch:
-
- archie 3.0 is definitely available and now shipping.
-
- and [about VMS directory listing parsers]:
-
- There is such a parser for the current release and thus VMS host
- support will appear as the existing servers convert to the new code.
-
- Concerning the commercial status of the new archie server -- even the
- original archie source was never pd. Consider the following written
- by George Ferguson (the author of xarchie):
-
- If you feel that Alan and Peter have done the net a great disfavour by
- charging for the new releases of Archie servers, perhaps you could
- elaborate. I personally accept what they did as being necessary to
- sustain the development of the service(s). I also don't think that
- they're in it to bilk the net out of something, or to make a fortune
- on the backs of others. I think their contributions to IETF and such
- activities reflects a genuine concern for and interest in sustained
- growth of the Internet community. The fact that they also have to eat
- and pay rent without the benefit of graduate stipends or a job that
- allows them to work on their own projects is simply a fact of life.
-
- These quotes are from a recent discussion in comp.archives.admin which
- every administrator of a larger ftp archive should read to keep
- up-to-date with news like `the new archie is ready.'
-
- --
- Joachim
-
- Btw: Darmstadt (ie, archie.th-darmstadt.de) paid for the sources. They
- are worth it.
-
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- Joachim Schrod Email: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
- Computer Science Department
- Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany
-
- ``How do we persuade new users that spreading fonts across the page
- like peanut butter across hot toast is not necessarily the route to
- typographic excellence? -- Peter Flynn
-