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- From: harthc@ntmtv.UUCP (Howard Hart)
- Subject: Re: SPARCClassic vs. 486
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.203725.1980@ntmtv>
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:37:25 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.154446.5124@eng.ufl.edu>, jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (Jon Mellott) writes:
- |> BTW, I suspect that NT will become significant in higher education.
- |> Imagine: a network ready OS with decent security (i.e., it gets along well
- |> in a lab environment, unlike the current PC OS's -- except Unix on PC),
- |> all of your favorite apps (Word for Win, WordPerfect, Lotus 123, Excel,
- |> CorelDRAW!), nice programming environment (POSIX .1 compatibility, full suite
- ^^^^^^^^
-
- Caught the NT demo at Interop in San Francisco this October. I was
- both impressed and disappointed. I was extremely impressed with the
- knowledge of the exhibitor's (for once a company stocked more techies
- than sales droids for an exhibition, what a unique concept) and NT
- actually looked usable, if not all that impressive.
- I was severely underwhelmed by Bill Gates and crew's interpretion of POSIX
- compatibility. Granted, he may be following the spec (the oldest,
- least complete spec), but he's doing it to the letter. Hey, for all
- I know, POSIX doesn't specify pipes and forks, but it seems a little
- severe to provide them as system calls and not permit them to pass
- file handles. Overall impression: many (if not most) UNIX system
- calls are there, but it's like a Hollywood stage set, there's nothing
- behind the doors (with no plans to build the interiors other than
- any time soon). Too, this is definitely a VMS-based OS with UNIX-like
- features as an afterthought (including the file system). Worst of all,
- the shell windows all come up labeled MSDOS--that's one feature
- they'll have to fix ASAP (depending on your point of view, of course).
-
- |> Also, the current list of processors supported by NT is x86, MIPS R4000,
- |> and DEC Alpha.
- |>
-
- Oh, seen NT running on MIPS or Alpha platforms on somebody's desk yet?
- Last I heard, DEC just announced the first Alpha workstations last week,
- with NT ports to come real soon now....maybe.
-
- I like the idea of NT if, for nothing else, it goosed the majority
- of UNIX vendors into standardizing on a single flavor, but I don't
- see anything but a lukewarm reception for it on server class systems.
- That's my opinion though--probably not others (or my company's
- necessarily, of course).
-
- P.S. - before I get beat up on this one, yes I know. POSIX is not
- UNIX (as the Microsoft guys repeated continuously). I just thought
- I had reason to hope when SunOs was labeled 100% compliant straight
- out of the box.
-
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