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- From: jjg@pt.com (John Grana)
- Subject: Re: Problems with Fast SCSI-II on Sun Sparc 10 (long)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.012613.21037@pt.com>
- Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
- References: <MRD.92Nov13160506@morsel.stdavids.picker.com> <1992Nov15.121008.12717@pt.com> <1992Nov17.100038.27178@panix.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:26:13 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.100038.27178@panix.com> alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen) writes:
- >I remember some discussion of FPT when IBM first introduced it. I seem to
- >recall that there was mention of some potential problems with FPT too.
-
- Yes, it presently is being worked on in the SCSI-3 parallel interface
- working group. The main concern is that it demands more then 48 ma for
- a brief period of time during the "forcing" (I heard around 52-55 ma).
- Anyways, its the chip people who are voicing some concerns. The general
- feeling is that it wont be an issue... most are behind it. Its too late
- to be included in the SCSI-2 spec. Expect it in SCSI-3 though.
-
- >
- >However... Assuming FPT is the solution we seek, where do we go about
- >terminating a Sparcstation 2? Obviously, the external end of the chain, but
- >what about inside the box? I have yet to get a straight answer as to where
- >(if anywhere) the internal part of the SCSI bus is terminated (I suspect that
- >it isn't but have no real basis on which to judge).
-
- Hmmm good question. I think the SS2 does have terminators, except they
- are passive. Look on the PCB near the connector to the internal disks.
- You would first have to disable them and then add a combination Active/FPT.
-
- >
- >Presumably this will mostly be an issue with fast SCSI-2 cards, in which case
- >we'd terminate on the card first? Or would the card come preterminated on
- >its end of the chain?
-
- Yes and yes. FPT is compatible with slower SCSI, but benefits fast SCSI the
- most. Ideally, the card would be terminated with it AND (critical) the
- other end of the bus as well.
-
- >
- >How much would an FPT terminator cost?
-
- From what I have found so far, around 40-50$ per end. In small qty.
-
- >
- >Oh, while we're at it... I've got a long chain of SCSI devices working on a
- >Mac and I have no doubt it will fail miserably on the Sun when we try to move
- >it. This is all SCSI-1 stuff. Does FPT apply to SCSI-1 (I thought it did)?
- >does it also help cope with dicey cabling setups, as it does with SCSI-2?
- >
-
- Might. Never tested it on a long bus withh mostly async devices. The setup
- I tested had 4 fast disks, a tape and a cd-rom with 4 cables and a total
- length (including the internal ribbon on the shoeboxes) of around 10-12
- feet. Work good.
-
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