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- From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
- Subject: Re: AnswerBook with X11r5??
- Message-ID: <15505@auspex-gw.auspex.com>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 03:40:11 GMT
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- >So let's say one is not running twm but is running the Motif Window
- >Manager (mwm). There is a known problem with mwm under the OW server
- >(Button 3 hangs the server). How can the mwm user get to use AnswerBook
- >or any of the other X-incompatible programs Sun decided to heap on us?
-
- Is that one of the server bugs fixed by patch 100444-18, "Openwindwos
- V3: xnews server patch 3000-27"? If so, "by installing that patch" may
- be the answer to the question.
-
- >(ever try to wrestle with CD Manager under mwm and the "real" X server?)
-
- If that's the CD Manager that comes with various Sun CD-ROMs, the
- problem probably has nothing to do with "mwm"; it has to do with the
- fact that the application checks to see whether it's running under an
- environment that can support it by checking whether it's running on top
- of the X11/NeWS server, as I remember (it checks for the "NEWSSERVER"
- environment variable, or something such as that). The damn thing should
- use some other technique for figuring out if the environment can support
- it, if it doesn't use NeWS.
-
- >For that matter when is Sun, the company that screems "we're standard"
- >stop trying to set the standards and follow them so that in the age of
- >"right sizing" (don't ya love newspeak? :-) we can spend a couple of
- >grand on an X-terminal and not thousands more on a machine we do not
- >really need?
-
- Given that the question is rhetorical and not particularly precise, I
- can only attempt to guess what you mean, but if the non-rhetorical
- question behind it is "when is Sun going to stop putting out
- applications that require NeWS?", I suspect the answer is "in Open
- Windows 4.0", if they have, indeed, shot NeWS in the head as their deal
- with Adobe hints they've done.
-