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- From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
- Subject: Re: New SPARC Classic
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- Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
- References: <BxtxD6.4CF@research.canon.oz.au> <1992Nov17.220452.3076@object.com>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:09:53 GMT
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- bbum@object.com (Bill Bumgarner) writes:
- >I would like to see any machine that doesn't dog out when running a
- >couple of compiles.
-
- We have quite a few that can do it. None have the brand name NeXT
- though. Some are considerably more expensive, some aren't.
-
- >As far as text scrolling is concerned; scrolling text within a set of 32-bit
- >rectangles of screen space (which is what scrolling text really is-- usually
- >you are only scrolling a single rectangle, though often the windowmanager is
- >forced to scroll a piece of text through multiple, odd-shaped, discontiguous
- >hunks of screen space) is a nasty performance hit as well... If the entire
- >contents of whatever is being scrolled is cached on the ND, it shouldn't be a
- >big deal. But if the image has to be moved across the backplane (either as a
- >straightforward bitmap or as a set of graphics primitives), then you get nailed
- >on the lack of throughput through the backplane... which isn't terribly high.
- >
-
- Yes you're quite correct about the memory bandwidth problems of
- scrolling but other systems don't seem to suffer as much as the NeXT.
- Is the DPS interpreter? The blitting code on the ND's i860? Or what?
- Too many software layers?
-
- I once did a window system port (X11) for a custom 24 bit (really 32)
- display we built. The display was connected to custom computer we
- built and hosted on a SparcStation IPC (memory i/f across the SBus to
- another custom bus) and although its scrolling performance was nothing
- to write home about (I did very little optimisation as it was only a
- short lived prototype) it didn't suffer as much as the NeXT.
-
- Don't misunderstand me .... I love these NeXT machines (I consider
- them to be the most useful machine that comes straight out of the box,
- or they were when you got lots of s/w bundled with them) - they're a
- nice mix of the Mac, a UNIX workstation and the beginnings of a decent
- distributed computing environment.
- --
- Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)
-